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515494 2007-01-13 09:49:00 I've had W98 on my comp forever(ran sweet), then I installed Ubantu on a seperate partition and had a Grub startup menu. Ubantu ran as default unless w98 was selected, and that was O.K., even though I was just playing around with Linix. Then I got a live CD of Kubantu(hope I've got these names right) and had a play with that.
After that there was a total boot failure. Message is
"DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER". I have tried to get the MBR reconstructed and told the boot CD(no floppy) to reinstall the SYS files with no sucessful boot. I think I may have lost "Grub" but know VERY LITTLE about Linux. Any step by step advice welcomed.
PPp (9511)
515495 2007-01-13 17:15:00 I am not sure with Grub but if you put yr linux disk in and reboot to it then it should give the option to repair the Linux os.You will need to be quick and press
what ever it says very smartly to get to the repair menue.In lolo it is the space bar but I think Grub is Enter.I do not think windows will do a repair if there is a Linux OS on the MBR.If you get "restore Kubuntu" follow the instructions and all will be OK.
kjaada (253)
515496 2007-01-13 17:21:00 Further to the above.
This should not be a serious problem so stay cool and others will help get you round it.The thing is to restore the Linux OS and do not worry about Windows at this stage.
kjaada (253)
515497 2007-01-13 19:24:00 The worst case scenario is that your hard drive may have died. :badpc: pcuser42 (130)
515498 2007-01-13 19:37:00 As I said in my previous:Stay cool,it is a pretty common problem with Grub and
someone will give you the right directions if my remedy above does not solve it.
kjaada (253)
515499 2007-01-13 20:20:00 I think I had this too (I can't actually remember... :waughh:)

To make sure the HDD is fine, run the manufacturers diagnostic tool (for a Seagate drive it is Seatools etc), It should be, IIRC it was Grub that done it to me...

If you can slave it in another PC after running the test (and it is fine) get all important data off the drive and format will be the easiest...

But that is my :2cents: others might have other ways...
The_End_Of_Reality (334)
515500 2007-01-13 20:27:00 Did you boot from the Windows CD to attempt to repair the MBR? Does the BIOS still recognise your hard drive? Does the boot order in the BIOS look OK? What did you actually play around with under Kubuntu; did you use any partitioning tools or similar? Jen (38)
515501 2007-01-14 00:16:00 Apart from Jens reply do the rest of you realise the situation ?
A person who is still using W98 has a first post on this forum and if they are still about and reading the replies they are getting replies that are way above the level that a new entrant would expect.Believe me I have been there and I would have appreciated replies in simple language that did not hint that my puter was dead and an expensive visit to the doctor was the only solution.
I guess if the original poster is not about then they have decided it is a lost cause.
I do hope tho that you will come back and update us.
kjaada (253)
515502 2007-01-14 05:51:00 kjaada:
Aside from your MULTIPLE replies, and Jens, there have only been two responses, of which BOTH contain valid points! Simply put, that CAN happen when the HDD has died! Sure its not what everybody wants to hear, but at the end of the day, even if you call a lemon an orange... its still a lemon, right?
Chilling_Silence (9)
515503 2007-01-14 07:16:00 Then I got a live CD of Kubantu(hope I've got these names right) and had a play with that.

PPp - I would be inerested in what you did when running the live CD- just playing with a live CD should not upset the boot manager at all.

I am not a Ubuntu user but the general procedure for recovering from this (assuming that the HDD is OK) is:
1. Boot to linux rescue mode (in Fedora you type "Linux rescue" at the boot prompt using the first install CD-ROM or the DVD).
2. At the command prompt change into /boot/grub
3. Type "grub-install /dev/hda" to reinstall GRUB.

Hope this helps.

John
johnd (85)
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