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Thread ID: 75832 2007-01-11 23:09:00 Upgrade now or wait JasonF (11755) Press F1
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515077 2007-01-13 00:35:00 I am not a big player of games like BF2 i am more of a RTS person would RTS games require a lot less to run or are most types of games reasonably similar.

depends on the game really, but 1GB of ram will be fine, i'd still get those parts though, they're in that range of "not expensive but not obsolete either". you could go cheaper on the ram, and keep your old hard disk to cut costs. also you could pick up a suitable motherboard for around $120
motorbyclist (188)
515078 2007-01-13 02:45:00 When DX 10 games come expect to need more ram as well as higher pc specs.


When DX10 games come, you'll need Vista as its the only O/S that will use it.
Therefore - wait.

And anyway whats with this "when"? See: wiki.incrysis.com

Recommended Requirements:

* CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
* Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DirectX10 equivalent
* RAM: 1.5GB
* HDD: 6GB
* Optical Drive: DVD
*Software: DirectX10 with Windows Vista
pctek (84)
515079 2007-01-13 03:04:00 That is a good point i think i might wait and see how things with vista pan out. JasonF (11755)
515080 2007-01-13 03:56:00 We are at least 2 years away from seeing a Game that "only" support DX10.

The software houses would be mentally retarded to make a game that supports maybe 30% of there potential market (Vista DX10) when they can build in DX9 support as well.

This was seen with the switch from DX8 - DX9


"Crysis" for instance (yet to be released - Far Cry 2 PC) which has been hailed by many as a DX10 game was built on DX9 technology with a few DX10 features being built in. It will support DX9 no problems.

Native DX10 only games have yet to even be announced, thus my at least 2 year statement.
Master_Frost (9951)
515081 2007-01-13 04:42:00 Dont underestimate MS and how they like to shape the market rather then serve it, Don't be surprised if the next Halo game AND Gears of War are released for PC and require Vista to run.

Personally I just wouldn't buy the games in that case.
Metla (12)
515082 2007-01-13 04:54:00 Dont underestimate MS and how they like to shape the market rather then serve it, Don't be surprised if the next Halo game AND Gears of War are released for PC and require Vista to run.

Personally I just wouldn't buy the games in that case.

Yea you do have a point there, it would largely be shooting themselves in the foot but definately possible.

I will revise my statement to software studio's other than MS will be stupid to build a game solely based on DX10 in the next few years.
Master_Frost (9951)
515083 2007-01-13 04:55:00 I read about a year ago or more that Halo 2 was/is going to be released to run only on Vista/DX10.

Trevor :)
Trev (427)
515084 2007-01-13 10:22:00 sad thing is that gamers will actually move to vista for that reason:groan:

i'm just waiting for dx to be 'modified' to work with linux, and i'm hoping someone will fiddle with dx10 to get it on XP... wishful thinking perhaps?
motorbyclist (188)
515085 2007-01-13 10:43:00 WAIT WAIT WAIT



wait a few month for the updated version of the core 2 duo chips to come out . upgraded 4mb cache on the 6300and 6400s with no extra cost, also fsb gets upgraded to 1333mghz and some other minor tweaks and such .

plus i myself am waiting for the new 8800gts to come out which gets you to geforce 8 series platforms plus the capabilities of dx10 . all this for around $500nzd


you win either way all you need to do is be patient for a few more month .
kingping (11473)
515086 2007-01-13 10:48:00 M$ will use DX 10 games to get people to buy Vista even though Vista is not good for us at this present stage .

From Wikipedia:

Digital Rights Management: Another common criticism concerns the integration of new forms of Digital Rights Management into the operating system, specifically the introduction of the Protected Video Path (PVP) . This architecture is designed such that "premium content" from HD-DVD or Blu-ray discs may mandate that the connections between PC components are encrypted . Devices such as graphic cards must be approved by Microsoft . Depending on what the content demands, the devices may not pass premium content over non-encrypted outputs, or they must artificially degrade the quality of the signal on such outputs or not display it all . There is also a revocation mechanism that allows Microsoft to disable drivers of compromised devices in end-user PCs over the Internet . Critics claim that these mechanisms violate fundamental rights of the user (such as fair use), unnecessarily increase the cost of hardware, and make systems less reliable and vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks . Proponents have pointed out that Microsoft had no choice but to follow the demands of the movie studios, and that the technology will not actually be enabled until at least 2010, maybe even 2012 .

From PCSTATS

HDCP (High Definition Copy Protection) is a new method of encrypting the digital (DVI) signal between the origin of the signal (receiver) and the display device . The standard was developed for the home theatre market first, for the purpose of ensuring that digital HD content could not be successfully captured and copied between the HD receiver and the television set that displays the signal .
Microsoft, as you might imagine, intends to support HD DVD and video on all its current operating systems, especially the upcoming Windows Vista . To this end, the company is building support for HDCP into the operating system as part of its suite of DRM (Digital Rights Management) abilities called Output Content Protection Management (OCPM) .

This fact has caused an outcry in the media and the computing community, since HDCP-enabled monitors will apparently be required to view High-Definition DVDs and other encoded content . This outcry is not necessarily justified, missing the facts that a) there's no guaranteeing that HDCP is going to take off as a standard for high-definition copy protection, and b) if it does, it's not just going to be Microsoft boxes that require HDCP monitors and TVs for full HD-DVD playback, it's going to be every new DVD player and cable/satellite receiver .

I really encourage anyone thinking about Vista to read the rest of this article at PCSTATS:Windows Vista, HDCP and Digital Rights Management

You may want to stick to xp after reading it,I sure did or have two two pc's one with xp and one with apple/linux:thumbs: . . . . . . or vista!!:horrified-for dx 10 games . :D

PC used to mean personal computer,I think with VISTA it should be changed to WWLYTUACYH=WHAT WE LET YOU TO USE AND CHARGE YOU HEAPS . :yuck:

But hay each to their own . :2cents:
memphis (2869)
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