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Thread ID: 139756 2015-06-22 06:23:00 Land line life. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1403386 2015-06-25 23:54:00 Chill, so presumably you can also get naked broadband from 2talk together with VOIP, similar to Orcon ?

Had a quick look on their site, but didn't notice a bundled plan for both voice and broadband, maybe didn't look properly.
Terry Porritt (14)
1403387 2015-06-26 00:33:00 Chill: Thanks so much for that. I will talk to SWMBO about changing over to VOIP. Roscoe (6288)
1403388 2015-06-26 03:19:00 Yeah you can, or you can get 2talk VoIP and DSL with, say, Snap. Or you could go the other way around, get DSL with 2talk and get Xnets VFX VoIP.

Skype are "VoIP", but it's a proprietary protocol and insanely limited in the devices you can use it with. SIP is the "standard", basically, which 2talk, Vibe, Orcon, Kordia, TelstraClear (+Vodafone), Callplus, iTalk etc *all* do.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1403389 2015-06-26 05:32:00 Difference is instead of coming over the actual *copper*, it's sent as a digital signal across my internet connection
Of course, the internet connection goes over copper from each house (unless you have fibre). So I suppose by *copper* you mean it terminates at a cabinet in your street and then uses fibre back to the *exchange*. Instead of using copper all the way back to the exchange

I've just discovered that the reason my exchanged-powered phone doesn't work is that 2 years ago I signed a new contract with Vodafone (which uses cable here in Wellington) that deleted exchange-powering. I missed it at the time. They should have told me "get rid of that phone - it doesn't work any more"

Chill, is it possible to manage a SIP phone oneself? To block numbers from calling you
BBCmicro (15761)
1403390 2015-06-26 08:08:00 What he means is that over coper it's a traditional analog landline. Via the internet it's digital VOIP. paulw (1826)
1403391 2015-06-26 21:05:00 I live in West Auckland so my phone number is 09 83X YYYY, .

Or 82, or 817, or 818 or 813 or....

I tried VOIP from Xnet when down South.
Hopeless with Eftpos....and the phone would not ring when incoming calls came through.
Despite messing about - back and forth with their help people for weeks, never did sort it out and gave up.

Have to say it's put me off.
pctek (84)
1403392 2015-06-26 21:39:00 Or 82, or 817, or 818 or 813 or....

I tried VOIP from Xnet when down South.
Hopeless with Eftpos....and the phone would not ring when incoming calls came through.
Despite messing about - back and forth with their help people for weeks, never did sort it out and gave up.

Have to say it's put me off.

We had that with Xnet about 5 years ago using the same old phone we use now plugged into their router, now its plugged into a Snap router. We don't really use the phone though, its just so my family can call from overseas.
gary67 (56)
1403393 2015-06-28 02:58:00 Chill, is it possible to manage a SIP phone oneself? To block numbers from calling you
Yes, in fact you can run an entire PBX system such as Asterisk or 3CX if you really want, have multiple "extensions" that are automatically run, it's not difficult at all.


Or 82, or 817, or 818 or 813 or....
Of course, I wasn't saying "West auckland is ONLY this".


I tried VOIP from Xnet when down South.
Hopeless with Eftpos....and the phone would not ring when incoming calls came through.
Despite messing about - back and forth with their help people for weeks, never did sort it out and gave up.
You're effectively doing the same as Faxing over VoIP, so you're going from an analog signal to a digital signal to an analog signal to a digital signal and back to an analog signal again.

Basically, it's just not clever, and you should get a proper IP-based EFTPOS system. OR, leave that on an analog line.
Anybody worth their salt will tell you that *yes* it's technically possible to do faxing and eftpos over VoIP but you've got to have a 100% stable line, zero jitter, and it's really just not worth the hassle.


What he means is that over coper it's a traditional analog landline. Via the internet it's digital VOIP.
Precisely.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1403394 2015-06-29 09:45:00 Our family got rid of landline a few years ago.
Most people have mobiles.

Some "weird" problems.
e.g. IRD shows 0800 numbers but when you try to call from a mobile one gets "this number does not accept calls from mobiles"

Worse a Computer store -an online supplier" would not accept an order mobile phone only.. This despite the fact that ones pays by Credit card before goods are shipped.
My wife fortunately had an old White Pages phonebook and scanned our former (cancelled) landline listing and emailed that to the Online Computer supplier who then agreed to accept the order..

Router use or similar terminology allows mobile phones only.
Plans are generally getting steadily cheaper for mobile voice calls -in and out.

I use my mobile phone as my Internet connection - cheaper plan than a T stick.

Unless you are a business I vote ditch your landline.
Neil F (14248)
1403395 2015-06-29 11:00:00 A line powered landline phone is great. Buy it once and you have no battery to go flat, no cordless radio to pickup interference, no firmware to brick itself with a bad update.
Sometimes I prefer to keep things low-tech, that way they 'just work'... and stay working.
Agent_24 (57)
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