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| Thread ID: 76706 | 2007-02-13 04:51:00 | NOD32 and compatible free Firewall | Gordon62 (11771) | Press F1 |
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| 524386 | 2007-02-15 10:45:00 | Yes and most NAT routers have separate firewall functionality built in dont they?? ?? Umm, actually no, no they don't. You pay a truck load more for a stand-alone hardware firewall and more for one with router. The, apparent, cloaking of the LAN that NAT achieves is an incidental bonus to it's function of translating your network addresses. Vendors who call a NAT (only) router a firewall or, "with firewall" are telling marketing fibs and there are quite a few who are doing it. A linux box acting as a firewall is a hardware firewall, can use smoothwall, pfsense, monowall whatever takes your fancy. Anyway from your comments its pretty clear to me you dont know what you are on about. It can only be classed hardware if that is where the code resides and you cannot write to it without going to some effort. You may have had Smoothwall set up like that, running it off CD will do. But it's disingenuous to make a sweeping statement that a Linux box set up with firewall software on it is a hardware firewall, it's just a box running software, if you get my drift. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 524387 | 2007-02-15 21:08:00 | Unfortunately MS have deemed that IE is essential to the orderly [sic] behaviour of Windows, i.e. they have given a mere application, and one that accesses the net on a regular basis at that, the ability and authority to do tasks that would ordinarily be given to the OS itself to do. What this has done to enhance the misery of computer users all over the world does not bear thinking of. Have you looked in the programmes options/preferences rather than via the System Tray? If that doesn't work, odds are even more favourable that it's a Windows (& poss it's buddy IE) issue, not an app issue. Hi Murray-I think you may very well be right in that IE7 could be the culprit. I can't be absolutely certain but I noticed the problem shortly after the IE7 update. The IT teckie who accessed my computer to diagnose the problem was of the opinion that there was some bug that was preventing configuring things properly and suspected M/S was the culprit.Will try your suggestion tonight. Many thanks for all your suggestions. BTW would reinstalling IE6 fix the problem? |
Gordon62 (11771) | ||
| 524388 | 2007-02-15 21:36:00 | ?? Umm, actually no, no they don't. Actually they do. A quick look at adsl modems available from Ascent tells me nearly all of them have a firewall and they dont cost a "truckload". www.ascent.co.nz It can only be classed hardware if that is where the code resides and you cannot write to it without going to some effort. You may have had Smoothwall set up like that, running it off CD will do. But it's disingenuous to make a sweeping statement that a Linux box set up with firewall software on it is a hardware firewall, it's just a box running software, if you get my drift. No i dont get your drift actually. Why would a dedicated PC acting solely as a firewall not be a hardware firewall? |
dolphinJuice (11882) | ||
| 524389 | 2007-02-15 22:38:00 | Marketing mumbo jumbo, they have NAT and stateful packet inspection on the router so the marketdroids say wow, it's a true firewall (as opposed to a mere NAT router). Your getting into the proper hardware firewalls/routers when you're hitting the $4-500+ range. What the hell is a true firewall anyway, the $98.10 Linksys blurb doesn't even mention "firewall" in the spiel but rate it as a "true" firewall as do many of the others. Is it a network or application level firewall, low or high??? Pure puffery. My point re a Linux box being called a hardware firewall simply because it sits between the Wan and LAN does not by definition make it a hardware firewall. I could throw a windows box in the same location and have firewall software running on it and claim the same thing. Smoothwall, M0n0Wall or somthing like that running off CD or protected memory would make me think, but the main point was that you made a sweeping statement which was unsupportable in general Remember the swans?) Ok, so I'm being picky. Besides, how does that support your original assertion that a firewall is unnecessary. You yourself have found the need for a dedicated box, which I might add is far harder to configure that a software firewall and the average Windows user doesn't have a hope in hell of setting up plus the average user is never going to consider using one. Most in NZ bung a cheap modem/router, supplied by their provider, on the connection and forget it for ever after unless they have a problem. |
Murray P (44) | ||
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