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| Thread ID: 76706 | 2007-02-13 04:51:00 | NOD32 and compatible free Firewall | Gordon62 (11771) | Press F1 |
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| 524366 | 2007-02-14 06:40:00 | Some argue the need to monitor outgoing connections but there are other better options to do this. Prevent unwanted/unnecessary outgoing connections, are the operative words. No NAT router can protect against all random attacks. They're useful to defend against hacks, but let's say a new improved sasser type nasty gets out there, just bouncing around the interweb..... |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 524367 | 2007-02-14 10:22:00 | What the heck is your firewall going to do against a trojan or worm? Its your antivirus that will protect you against viruses. If for some strange reason you feel the need to monitor outgoing connections then google for tcp/ip monitors and go for your life. If you think you might have spyware or other crap on your system run ad-ware and spybot but seriously, people are deluding themselves if they think they are better protected using a software firewall. Its a gimmick plain and simple. |
dolphinJuice (11882) | ||
| 524368 | 2007-02-14 10:56:00 | You're not getting it are you. I don't want to monitor every damn programme or script that wants to access the net or my lan, I want to limit that capability to do so to the ones I want to give access to. i.e. STOP IT as opposed to monitor it, although I concede that monitoring can be useful and fun if you like reading logs. I also don't want a worm or trojan communicating from my machine while some security geek in a foreign country is furiously trying to write a definition file for it so I can update my AV to protect against it. See. I also don't like, otherwise good and useful software, from using my bandwidth because some blimmin marketing dork who works for said software's' company thought it would be a good idea to surreptitiously install a little routine on my machine to do business on their behalf. I'd also like to be informed somehow, the day my AV and other anti-malware products fail to work properly. It's called.... redundancy and, on that note I end this little rant. Edit: I apologise for my tone, I've just noticed you're brand new here... by definition a noob. |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 524369 | 2007-02-14 22:13:00 | OK-it seems Comodo gets the nod. A couple of final questions, should you disable the Windows firewall before installing Comodo or disable it at all? Is there anything I should know as to setting it up in relation to NOD32? I have had enough problems in the last month or so with b******d up programmes due (I suspect) to IE7 being installed. Running XP with SP2 installed. It should turn XP's firewall off, it'll ask u or tell u anyway to turn it off anyway, when u go to install it. You shouldn't run more than 1 firewall at the same time. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 524370 | 2007-02-14 22:40:00 | Although they are good at dealing with a lot of trojans, AVs do not detect all of them . Their job is to detect viruses . My firewall has more than once alerted me to trojans that somehow sneaked on and were undetected by my AV . And, even though I also have a NAT router, I like having control over everything my PC does and a firewall assists with that . Murray: No need to apologise for your tone . You know, an eye for an eye and all that guff . |
FoxyMX (5) | ||
| 524371 | 2007-02-14 23:37:00 | Murray: No need to apologise for your tone. You know, an eye for an eye and all that guff. Satire ain't your strongest point is it Foxy... oh well, mine neither obviously :rolleyes: |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 524372 | 2007-02-15 03:16:00 | Seems I have ruffled a few feathers here :eek: 1 . Use windows firewall if you want to stop programs from accessing the net . 2 . A tcp monitor can alert you to outgoing connections . Yes software firewalls do all of that but many of them are obtrusive, resource whores and nowadays they are redundant except to monitor bandwith . Although they are good at dealing with a lot of trojans, AVs do not detect all of them . Their job is to detect viruses . My firewall has more than once alerted me to trojans that somehow sneaked on and were undetected by my AV . lolol :p |
dolphinJuice (11882) | ||
| 524373 | 2007-02-15 03:50:00 | Use windows firewall if you want to stop programs from accessing the net. It would be nice if it did, but it doesn't block outgoing connections, only incoming. Then people wouldn't have to use software based firewalls. So, if u get a trojan, or a worm, or something else, XP's firewall won't stop it. Why would people on dialup want to monitor bandwidth? There's not much to monitor. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 524374 | 2007-02-15 04:12:00 | Nod32 and Comodo work together for me fine. | Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 524375 | 2007-02-15 05:54:00 | Seems I have ruffled a few feathers here :eek: 1 . Use windows firewall if you want to stop programs from accessing the net . 2 . A tcp monitor can alert you to outgoing connections . Yes software firewalls do all of that but many of them are obtrusive, resource whores and nowadays they are redundant except to monitor bandwith . lolol :p "Ruffled feathers"!!, don't flatter yourself kiddo . All we're trying to do is help prevent you utterly destroying any credibility you may have had . Up to this point it's been a thankless task and abject failure, but we're dedicated folk around here, so listen up . 1 . What Speedy said . 2 . It may well do that very nicely, but then you have to rummage around and find out what it is and why if it's not immediately obvious, then decide what to do about it and how that doing might be achieved . Especially pertinent to the average user one would think, eh! . No far better to have that all in the one, dedicated for the task, place . A firewall being a resource whore there's no excuse, simply go and get one that isn't, there are plenty of good ones around . If you really do adhere to that sort of logic, you'll be advising people to get rid of their AV and not replace it because Nortons is chewing through their resources like a great white on acid . Although they are good at dealing with a lot of trojans, AVs do not detect all of them . Their job is to detect viruses . My firewall has more than once alerted me to trojans that somehow sneaked on and were undetected by my AV . lolol :p What's so funny, why is your tongue flapping around like that? I'm sure it's nothing to do with you not having a plausible answer readily at hand for this one . |
Murray P (44) | ||
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