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527254 2007-02-22 20:03:00 Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king.
When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked
Then windows 3, where there was an addon section ,where you could look for your driver. Plug and play was just a dream.
I don't recall a single instance where I could not get hardware to work.
MS supplied the OS and it was up to you to make addon hardware to work.

Seems to me that today the manufacturers are making their products a bit too complicated. If you don't have a perfect driver,it won't work.

Why then do we expect everything to work perfectly out of the box. If a product won't work, why is it MS's fault?

Why have I thrown out three versions of Linux because I couldn't find drivers for my mouse, modem, scanner etc.etc?

Why is windows,(any version), ****, because it doesn't have drivers for something we want to plug in?

At the moment I'm in a bad mood because a cheap HP printer I bougt for quick print outs requires 26 mb's of driver and installation files before it will work.
I had a simliar printer 15 years ago that was just as good ( but 10 times the price), that had all it's drivers etc on a single floppy.

And why do keyboards today refuse to spell properly:angry
JJJJJ (528)
527255 2007-02-22 20:26:00 And why does this forum automaticly change a good earth word into ****.
I assume everone can guess what I said.
JJJJJ (528)
527256 2007-02-22 20:30:00 Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king.
When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked
Then windows 3, where there was an addon section ,where you could look for your driver. Plug and play was just a dream.
I don't recall a single instance where I could not get hardware to work.
MS supplied the OS and it was up to you to make addon hardware to work.


At the moment I'm in a bad mood because a cheap HP printer I bougt for quick print outs requires 26 mb's of driver and installation files before it will work.

Yes.

No, things DID have drivers, I remember well messing about with Loadhi to shuffle mouse, CD, sound etc drivers around to get the max of my 640k free.

And I remember problems with drivers, Creative for instance.

And hunting around for a tiny mouse driver instead of the bloated ones you normally got.

And the added fun of then messing with the IRQ arrangement......

As for your printer, just load the driver only, not all the crap it comes with such as toolboxs, HP help and all that clutter.
pctek (84)
527257 2007-02-22 20:33:00 Go stick s pin in something, have a coffee or a shot.

Dont let the facts of life get you down.
Rob99 (151)
527258 2007-02-22 22:42:00 Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king.
When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked
Then windows 3, where there was an addon section ,where you could look for your driver. Plug and play was just a dream.
I don't recall a single instance where I could not get hardware to work.
MS supplied the OS and it was up to you to make addon hardware to work.

Seems to me that today the manufacturers are making their products a bit too complicated. If you don't have a perfect driver,it won't work.

Why then do we expect everything to work perfectly out of the box. If a product won't work, why is it MS's fault?

Why have I thrown out three versions of Linux because I couldn't find drivers for my mouse, modem, scanner etc.etc?

Why is windows,(any version), ****, because it doesn't have drivers for something we want to plug in?

At the moment I'm in a bad mood because a cheap HP printer I bougt for quick print outs requires 26 mb's of driver and installation files before it will work.
I had a simliar printer 15 years ago that was just as good ( but 10 times the price), that had all it's drivers etc on a single floppy.

And why do keyboards today refuse to spell properly:angryIt's called progress Jack ;) :rolleyes: :D
johcar (6283)
527259 2007-02-23 03:29:00 It's called progress Jack ;) :rolleyes: :D

LOL that must it.

I remember dos well, when you had to tinker with your config.sys to get the most out of your RAM cos Bill said 640k was enough for everyone. Who made him king? :annoyed:

yeah things did have drivers then, an yeah they came on floppys... but hey, they did work! :blush:
han308 (7457)
527260 2007-02-23 03:34:00 "Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king. When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked."

Yes, and that huge 10Mb hard drive and 1Mb RAM meant that DOS loaded in 2 or 3 seconds and then the green screen was all set to go! With a standard centronics dot matrix printer you didn't need drivers, just plug in and go!
I blame the invention of the mouse for all our current problems - it insisted on being able to pick things up from the screen and move them, left and right click them, throw them out of the windows and all that nonsense.
Mind you - have you tried a DOS 3.3 machine lately? A bit like listening to a crystal set on one headphone instead of watching TV. forums.pcworld.co.nz
:)
coldot (6847)
527261 2007-02-23 03:38:00 I have no problems with drivers and a congenital fiddler to boot.

So it must be you Jack!.
Cicero (40)
527262 2007-02-23 05:04:00 It's called progress Jack ;) :rolleyes: :DAnd why do people have to quote the entire post just to say four words and add a couple of emoticons? :illogical

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :D
Billy T (70)
527263 2007-02-23 05:44:00 Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king.
When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked
Then windows 3, where there was an addon section ,where you could look for your driver. Plug and play was just a dream.
I don't recall a single instance where I could not get hardware to work.
MS supplied the OS and it was up to you to make addon hardware to work.

Seems to me that today the manufacturers are making their products a bit too complicated. If you don't have a perfect driver,it won't work.

Why then do we expect everything to work perfectly out of the box. If a product won't work, why is it MS's fault?

Why have I thrown out three versions of Linux because I couldn't find drivers for my mouse, modem, scanner etc.etc?

Why is windows,(any version), ****, because it doesn't have drivers for something we want to plug in?

At the moment I'm in a bad mood because a cheap HP printer I bougt for quick print outs requires 26 mb's of driver and installation files before it will work.
I had a simliar printer 15 years ago that was just as good ( but 10 times the price), that had all it's drivers etc on a single floppy.

And why do keyboards today refuse to spell properly


And why does this forum automaticly change a good earth word into ****.
I assume everone can guess what I said.


Yes.

No, things DID have drivers, I remember well messing about with Loadhi to shuffle mouse, CD, sound etc drivers around to get the max of my 640k free.

And I remember problems with drivers, Creative for instance.

And hunting around for a tiny mouse driver instead of the bloated ones you normally got.

And the added fun of then messing with the IRQ arrangement......

As for your printer, just load the driver only, not all the crap it comes with such as toolboxs, HP help and all that clutter.


Go stick s pin in something, have a coffee or a shot.

Dont let the facts of life get you down.


It's called progress Jack


LOL that must it.

I remember dos well, when you had to tinker with your config.sys to get the most out of your RAM cos Bill said 640k was enough for everyone. Who made him king?

yeah things did have drivers then, an yeah they came on floppys... but hey, they did work!


"Does anyone remember the early days of computers? When DOS was king. When nothing had drivers and you had to search and experiment to find something that worked."

Yes, and that huge 10Mb hard drive and 1Mb RAM meant that DOS loaded in 2 or 3 seconds and then the green screen was all set to go! With a standard centronics dot matrix printer you didn't need drivers, just plug in and go!
I blame the invention of the mouse for all our current problems - it insisted on being able to pick things up from the screen and move them, left and right click them, throw them out of the windows and all that nonsense.
Mind you - have you tried a DOS 3.3 machine lately? A bit like listening to a crystal set on one headphone instead of watching TV.


I have no problems with drivers and a congenital fiddler to boot.

So it must be you Jack!.


And why do people have to quote the entire post just to say four words and add a couple of emoticons?

Cheers

Billy 8-{)

To ensure their point is pointed in the right direction:thumbs::thumbs::D
Metla (12)
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