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Thread ID: 77043	2007-02-25 02:36:00	PC won't complete boot - just re-boots	John H (8)	Press F1

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527925	2007-02-25 08:59:00	Does Xandros do a LiveCD version now?	Jen (38)
527926	2007-02-25 09:02:00	KwikDisk is the utility you'll be looking for to mount the drives/partitions (Ubuntu uses KDE by default doesn't it folks :blush: ).Ah, Ubuntu is a Gnome desktop environment it should have a equivalent to KwikDisk.	Jen (38)
527927	2007-02-25 09:08:00	Ah, Ubuntu is a Gnome desktop environment it should have a equivalent to KwikDisk. Ta for the rescue Jen. You can tell I have an inkling but not a clue :lol: Now get yer self over to the Mepis thread.	Murray P (44)
527928	2007-02-25 09:12:00	Jen, I was confused. Xandros has a free edition, not a Live CD version. Sorry.	John H (8)
527929	2007-02-25 09:17:00	John, you will have to mount the drives or partitions where your data is first, then you can go get it. KwikDisk is the utility you'll be looking for to mount the drives/partitions (Ubuntu uses KDE by default doesn't it folks :blush: ). Murray, thanks, but (I'm looking dumber by the minute), how do I run a utility like that if I am booting off a Ubuntu CD (assuming there is a Gnome version that is)? :blush:	John H (8)
527930	2007-02-25 09:52:00	Dunno, I don't know where they might hide something like that in Ubuntu, but there certainly will be something, if not more than one. In Mepis (which is know, in part, based on Ubuntu) I'd go; The little KDE kog symbol (like Start, bottom left), System > File System > KwikDisk or View Disk Usage. Look for something similar. Alternatively, if a buch of disc icons are showing on the desktop, click one. Who around this godforesaking place rund Gnome?? Get yer butt un here and help out :mad:	Murray P (44)
527931	2007-02-25 21:05:00	Sorry Murray - I misunderstood. I didn't realise that the utility would be part of Ubuntu on the bootable CD. Ubuntu booted OK on the second try (see below), and both Device Manager and Partition Editor can see the two hard drives and their respective partitions, but in no way could I get into them to copy data. Ubuntu is cool though - it detected all hardware, though it wouldn't work initially with the LCD monitor. Sorry to get technical here, but it wouldn't work with the cord that goes to the white plug on the video card, but it will work with the cord that goes to the blue plug... :blush: At least I was clever enough to think of that and change cords... ;) Ubuntu also easily connected to the internet and to the family computer which is on the wireless network. Quite a bit simpler than Windows networking... Anywho, as I say, Ubuntu wasn't clever enough to allow me access to either of the two hard drives, so it is back to square one of taking the disks out and trying to salvage something with another PC. I am not sure if there is room in the family computer (it is a Shuttle) for a second hard drive, but will whip the case off to see if that will work. If not, it is into PC hospital. pctek(?) asked if I had seen any symptoms of disk problems. I now recall that about a fortnight ago after I reinstalled the software for my Sony-Ericsson cellphone (because it wasn't working properly), I started to get messages when booting (after login and the Windows screen was up) saying something like "Generic Device Management ?module has an error and will have to close. Do you wish to send the error message?". It said it couldn't find devices or something, but there were no obvious issues, so I put it down to the SE software. As the phone sync software worked, I didn't think anything more about it. It only happened every so often after re-booting. Perhaps I should have taken it seriously...	John H (8)
527932	2007-02-25 22:16:00	right i had a quick read over it but cant find if you have fixed it or not - i see that you went to repair it and it could not find a windows installation - if you can go into the recovery console and log into your windows installation (generally C: Drive) then run: CHKDSK /R - this takes ages but does most of the work CHKDSK /P - takes a few minutes at most FIXBOOT then type exit to reboot PC - try and see if it will load windows normally - if it still plays up you should be able to boot off the XP cd and run a repair now as the windows installation will now be visible and repairable - best of luck to ya :)	MAC_H8ER (5897)
527933	2007-02-25 23:07:00	If it was me instead of taking it to a pro to diagnose I'd spend the money on a new hard drive. Remove your existing main drive and put it onto the other IDE channel, fit the new one and do a fresh install of Windows. If this works it'll be a fair indication that your old drive is stuffed, but the probability is that you'll still be able to access the data on it and copy to your new or backup drive. If the above doesn't work you still got a new drive.	Greg (193)
527934	2007-02-25 23:48:00	Anywho, as I say, Ubuntu wasn't clever enough to allow me access to either of the two hard drives, so it is back to square one of taking the disks out and trying to salvage something with another PC . I am not sure if there is room in the family computer (it is a Shuttle) for a second hard drive, but will whip the case off to see if that will work . If not, it is into PC hospital . You need to mount drives in Linux, it does not do it automatically as in Windows except for the boot drive (/ . root (equivalent to C), /home and /swap partition if there is one) . That is why you need to go and find the utility that does that or do it from the command prompt, then browse the partitions in the windows manager (a browser) . If you can boot up a Linux live CD, you [u]can access and copy data . Check the drive with the manufactures diagnostic utility, Seagate WD, etc, have these for download on their websites . You don't want to be checking the drive with anything that will write to disc/alter the layout, you can lose data that way .	Murray P (44)
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