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Thread ID: 139849 2015-07-08 04:10:00 Do we have any members prepared to defend……… B.M. (505) PC World Chat
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1404381 2015-07-10 05:13:00 If there are people who still would like to keep the old one, then leave it. We should all be proud of our country, rather than what is being blown in the wind. Many served under that flag and it meant a lot to them in those times, or are we trying to forget?

I don't really care too much about a flag, theres more deserving issues at hand that could have used those resources. Really do believe its wool being pulled over the eyes while something else is going on. Just smoke and mirror tricks.

Cheers,

KK
Kame (312)
1404382 2015-07-10 06:23:00 The flag debate is a diversionary tactic designed to deflect public attention away from loss of sovereignty that will come about with TPPA, the sale of sizeable chunks of NZ real estate to China and other foreigners, and other things the government don't want the hoi-polloi to know about, like sleazy Saudi deals, :horrified :D

Well despite us having been known to disagree on the odd occasion I must agree with you on this one Terry. ;)

The “Flag” issue is a “Red Herring”, but not to be ignored. However, what is the slimy little sod up to?

You may well be right about “TTPA”, or selling off “Freehold Chunks of this Country” to his “Overseas Friends”, with a “KickBack” of course. :thumbs:

On the other hand, it could be a simple as another “Ego Trip” where he turns the Country into a Republic and replaces the “Queens Head” on our Currency with his own “Smiling Face.” :D
B.M. (505)
1404383 2015-07-10 07:17:00 I have a Confederate flag in the back window of my work truck, if they change the NZ flag the old one will take its place. prefect (6291)
1404384 2015-07-10 07:28:00 The flag debate is a diversionary tactic designed to deflect public attention away from loss of sovereignty that will come about with TPPA, the sale of sizeable chunks of NZ real estate to China and other foreigners, and other things the government don't want the hoi-polloi to know about, like sleazy Saudi deals, :horrified :D

Yes, that's about it Terry. It's not NZ the way I want it.
rumpty (2863)
1404385 2015-07-10 08:01:00 When I first moved here I thought the flag was too close to the Oz one and couldn't understand why. Having now been here for 14 years my view has changed I can see that new Zealanders are proud of their flag and changing it would be seen as dishonourable to fallen heroes and returned services as well as many other people born and bred here.

I really don't see why we can't get the Ozzies to change their flag as that would cost us next to nothing, we could even give them JK as a token of goodwill (at least he would finally be doing something useful).
gary67 (56)
1404386 2015-07-10 08:45:00 $200K for flag meeting workshops

Meh, 'tis but a drop in the bucket.
icow (15313)
1404387 2015-07-10 08:49:00 I suspect BM is right about the flag issue being the first stage towards a republic, though over in the land of Oz, Keating also used a change of flag issue and republicanism as a diversionary tactic away from economic matters.

Anyhow, none of it makes much sense, especially the insistence by Key on the referendum being binding.............yet more hypocrisy.
Terry Porritt (14)
1404388 2015-07-10 09:52:00 When I first moved here I thought the flag was too close to the Oz one and couldn't understand why. Having now been here for 14 years my view has changed I can see that new Zealanders are proud of their flag and changing it would be seen as dishonourable to fallen heroes and returned services as well as many other people born and bred here.

I really don't see why we can't get the Ozzies to change their flag as that would cost us next to nothing, we could even give them JK as a token of goodwill (at least he would finally be doing something useful).

I 100% agree with your post except for exporting the PM.
prefect (6291)
1404389 2015-07-10 11:58:00 Anyone prepared to defend this is truly a member. :D KarameaDave (15222)
1404390 2015-07-10 23:14:00 What a pack of negative, wallowing, hypocritical, whinging, whining, bullshit spouting, conspiracy theorist, defeatists you all are. Thank God that there aren't too many like you all. Read back on some of your older posts and wonder why you bother even getting up in the morning. Life goes on well for most people, and only you sorry lot seem unable to do the same. You just whine at others as though yours is the only correct view. You criticise others but cannot offer any better alternative with a realistic chance of succeeding. All you can do, like those of your ilk on The Standard is whine and make supposed argument by calling people names. Great attitude, great intelligence. Thank God the left will not be governing this country again for a very long time. Richard (739)
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