Forum Home
Press F1
 
Thread ID: 140697 2015-11-27 21:47:00 Dual boot win10 with win7? Bryan (147) Press F1
Post ID Timestamp Content User
1412081 2015-11-28 20:21:00 Thanks mzee. I think my problem has been imaging with Acronis True Image. All it seems to want to do is completely replace all partitions on the HDD. I will need to investigate another imaging tool such as AOMEI or the like. Any thoughts? Bryan (147)
1412082 2015-11-28 21:59:00 By all means make a backup image of W7, BUT you DONT need to upgrade W7 to W10 then reinstall W7.

On the HDD that has W7, re-size the partition and create a new one in the blank space. Or install another HDD depending on where you want to put W10.

Make a DVD from the ISO that can be downloaded www.microsoft.com Scroll down the page a little, fill out as required.

Boot from the Windows 10 DVD you have just made, follow through, Where it gets to the point of entering a product key, enter either a W7, W8 or 8.1 key. This latest version of W10 10586 accepts them all. Carry on, where it gets to the point of installing, select Custom - Select the blank Partition when it asks where do you want to install W10 -- Carry on as normal. On reboot you'll get the option to boot into W7 or W10, select 10 to finish installing.

Simple eh :)

If you use the same W7 key you may encounter problems as legally you give up the W7 key if using W10.

If you only wanted to try W10, then get the 90 day free trial www.microsoft.com You'll need to create a free microsoft account unless you already have one ( live, outlook.com mail etc)

As for Imaging software -- The problems are lots of them cant handle the formats the name brand manufactures create, HP's for example usually have 6 partitions - all required, I use Active@disk Image on standard installs and seems to work fine, have got AOMEI but have had failures. W7 is not usually a problem, its W10 thats the troublesome one.
wainuitech (129)
1412083 2015-11-29 00:23:00 Thanks mzee. I think my problem has been imaging with Acronis True Image. All it seems to want to do is completely replace all partitions on the HDD. I will need to investigate another imaging tool such as AOMEI or the like. Any thoughts?

I used Acronis 11 for many years but it had problems with W10. I am now using AOMEI and have had no problems whatsoever. In-fact I can change from W7 to W10 'hands-free'. Just open it in W10 or W7 and set to install the other. Come back 30 mins later and the system has changed. My only complaint with AOMEI is that it takes forever to boot the Windows rescue disk. The optional Linux CD is quicker to boot, but not as user friendly. I have both the Pro & Std versions and there is very little difference other than being able to mount an image as a virtual drive.
mzee (3324)
1412084 2015-11-29 00:35:00 If you use the same W7 key you may encounter problems as legally you give up the W7 key if using W10.



I paid good money for my W7 Key! So far as I am concerned it is mine. I can imagine how Microsoft handles Xmas. I will give you this new shonky product, but I will take away your good one! My reply is obvious! Are Microsoft trying to encourage Piracy? They must know that it is very simple to activate any of their products in just a few minutes. Most people don't mind paying for software if it's good. I would not pay $10 for Windows 10.
mzee (3324)
1412085 2015-11-29 14:30:00 www.howtogeek.com blanco (11336)
1412086 2015-11-29 19:17:00 I paid good money for my W7 Key! So far as I am concerned it is mine. I can imagine how Microsoft handles Xmas. I will give you this new shonky product, but I will take away your good one! My reply is obvious! Are Microsoft trying to encourage Piracy? They must know that it is very simple to activate any of their products in just a few minutes. Most people don't mind paying for software if it's good. I would not pay $10 for Windows 10.

If you brought OEM, then when you install you agree to the license agreement. If its ever read you will also see the OEM is locked to the Computer its originally installed on. When that computer dies so does the license. If you don't want to believe it the read what was agreed to. Eg the terms and conditions / Your Windows license agreement. If W10 is installed on the same hardware as the upgrade, then all its doing is using the W7 key.

With W10 look at like MS are enforcing the OEM licensing. Modern laptops dont come with a license key/sticker, the product key is in the Motherboard, so good luck trying to use its key on another PC or when the motherboard fails.

Its nice to know that if the OP does have problem, mzee will gladly give a free key :)

Heres a question- lets say you have two cars, same make and model, you register one, does that mean you can use the same registration on the other ?
wainuitech (129)
1412087 2015-11-29 20:01:00 In any case they don't take your old key off you or prevent you from continuing to use windows 7 that you paid for if that's what you want.
They simply have given you the option of accepting a free upgrade if you want to, if you don't like the terms of that free upgrade don't use it.

What they have not done is offered to give you, for free, a new standalone copy of windows 10. Just the option to upgrade your existing OS, again if you want to. True they have been a little pushy and annoying about the free upgrade, but personally at the price I'm not complaining.

To borrow Wainui's car analogy Idea, if your car manufacturer offered to upgrade your old engine for free to a new model would you expect to keep the old one and put it in another car or complain if they said no? You'd either accept the offer or you wouldn't.
dugimodo (138)
1412088 2015-11-29 20:54:00 You could argue...
MS gives you the option to re-install Win7 at any time

So , with dual boot, you arnt running both OS's at the same time, or on different PC's
You can only run 1 OS at a time with dual boot. Now that in reality works out the same as re-imaging 7, or 10 each time. Dual boot is quicker , thats all.

I'm not saying its 'allowed' , just that dual boot works out the same as re-imaging which is allowed .
1101 (13337)
1 2