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| Thread ID: 139865 | 2015-07-13 02:48:00 | Can I have a $ each way please? | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
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| 1404666 | 2015-07-26 11:01:00 | That kind of arguing has a name: Texas Sharpshooter (yourlogicalfallacyis.com). :D | pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1404667 | 2015-07-26 11:35:00 | That kind of arguing has a name: Texas Sharpshooter (yourlogicalfallacyis.com). :D Yes and both sides of this debate are doing exactly that. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1404668 | 2015-07-26 22:02:00 | Yes and both sides of this debate are doing exactly that.I dunno mate, I can only see one side arguing that way. I'd be happy to clarify any of my posts you think are ignoring some valid points made though. | Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1404669 | 2015-07-27 00:13:00 | I dunno mate, I can only see one side arguing that way. I'd be happy to clarify any of my posts you think are ignoring some valid points made though. Nick I accept and respect that you passionately support your belief that AGW is happening and you are perfectly entitled to hold that belief. You are very quick to support those you agree with and dismiss those with which you do not. I would be very interested in seeing if you still hold the same beliefs in another 10 or 20 years. I suspect that you may well change your views a bit by then. In the mean time I think most of us are somewhere in the middle and have probably had enough of this subject for a while. |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1404670 | 2015-07-27 03:18:00 | Come on BM, you know full well as does everyone else, that the concern about rising sea levels is not about icebergs melting, it is about ice on land melting and adding to the ocean's level. That sort of silly statement weakens your arguments. Oh good, now we have established that Icebergs melting are not an issue and the Polar Bears are Red Herrings, we can address the ice on land issue you raise. :D Now my understanding is that ice needs to reach 0°C before it starts melting and even then the melting is far from immediate meaning that a substantial slab of ice may take months to melt depending how much above 0°C the surrounding air temperature remains. With this in mind I checked the present temperatures at Scott Base and found the following. 6620 Well not much chance of any ice melting there. So we now have a situation where the land ice is well and truly frozen and Icebergs floating north don’t count because they can melt without raising the ocean 1mm. Am I missing something here? :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1404671 | 2015-07-27 03:18:00 | Nick I accept and respect that you passionately support your belief that AGW is happening and you are perfectly entitled to hold that belief. You are very quick to support those you agree with and dismiss those with which you do not. I would be very interested in seeing if you still hold the same beliefs in another 10 or 20 years. I suspect that you may well change your views a bit by then. In the mean time I think most of us are somewhere in the middle and have probably had enough of this subject for a while. So, no posts of mine that you can factually criticize then? This is quite a good article, worth a read - www.houstonpress.com It seems to me that quite a few people around here are trying to dismiss facts as opinions, while promoting their opinions as facts. As to dismissing those with conflicting beliefs, I am quick to dismiss opinions, you're right. Not quite sure why I should waste my time on someone who tries to argue facts with opinions. I've got better things to do with my time. There are valid questions on the debate which are matters of opinion - how much of climate change is caused by us, and how much is naturally occurring being one of the main ones. Certainly, whether or not the policies we are enacting, and the other steps we are taking to be environmentally friendly are beneficial or detrimental is another valid question. But whether climate change is occurring, and whether we as a species are contributing to it, is a fact - and not a matter of opinion. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1404672 | 2015-07-27 03:43:00 | After watching the Program "Sunday" last night, my biggest concern is population growth, and the nation that no longer has a one child limit per family. The article on Australia should have us all concerned. And a country with three trillion dollars to spend is buying up Oz. This neighbour of ours was pretty wealthy a few years back and with the droughts they have been having why did they not follow up on this link: en.wikipedia.org lurking. |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1404673 | 2015-07-27 22:51:00 | I checked the present temperatures at Scott Base and found the following . 6620 Well not much chance of any ice melting there . Am I missing something here? :D So mid-winter at Scott base and you expect a temperature above 0 Celsius? A further demonstration of your stupidity . Are you missing something? A brain, perhaps . |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1404674 | 2015-07-27 23:59:00 | I'm almost reluctant to mention this because of what some people may take from it but anyway, Technically we are currently still in an ice age. Forests have existed in the Antarctic in the past. From Wikipedia ice age implies the presence of extensive ice sheets in the northern and southern hemispheres.[1] By this definition, we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist.[2] I guess sooner or later things are bound to warm up regardless. However I still will never support ignoring the whole issue or our role in it. Striving to have less impact on the environment is something I consider a positive trend even if we end up making a few missteps along the way. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1404675 | 2015-07-28 01:13:00 | So mid-winter at Scott base and you expect a temperature above 0 Celsius? A further demonstration of your stupidity . Are you missing something? A brain, perhaps . :lol: Oh my goodness . Well if it's mid-winter at Scott Base it must be mid-summer at the North Pole so I got hold of Mr Clause and he reported the following . 6625 Not much Thawing there either . :lol: However, being the luminary you are I'm sure you'll have an explanation . :lol: |
B.M. (505) | ||
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