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Thread ID: 139865 2015-07-13 02:48:00 Can I have a $ each way please? B.M. (505) PC World Chat
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1404646 2015-07-25 20:14:00 I am convinced that human industrial activity circa 1820+ contributes to the Earth's climate. Essentially the effects are pollution. Smoke, heavy metals, hydrocarbons released into the biosphere.

I'm curious as to how you explain the cooling through the same period?

In 2009, Professor Ian Plimer, a geologist at the University of Adelaide, outlined some facts: “This century temperature has been decreasing, yet CO2 has been increasing. Over the last 150 years, temperature has increased (1860-1880, 1910-1940, 1976-1998) and decreased (1880-1910, 1940-1976, and 2002 to the present), yet CO2 has been increasing. If CO2 has been increasing, how can CO2-driven warming have driven cooling?
B.M. (505)
1404647 2015-07-25 21:32:00 I am convinced that human industrial activity circa 1820+ contributes to the Earth's climate . Essentially the effects are pollution . Smoke, heavy metals, hydrocarbons released into the biosphere .

Nevertheless BM and others are right to point to the Sun which purely as an energy source overwhelmingly dominates our yearly climate . There is plenty of research and SF novels which predict a snowball Earth .

Regardless, the real question for each of of us is - are we content to burn hydrocarbons and lead etc which kill an almost unaccountably vast amount of creatures which our children will only see in museums . Already corals are dying - check out the Great Barrier Reef .

Ah but there you have it, apparently coal burning power stations only pump steam into the atmosphere so we are ok .
gary67 (56)
1404648 2015-07-25 22:05:00 And here's proof from the Greens Website in NSW. :lol:

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B.M. (505)
1404649 2015-07-25 22:53:00 Ah, water pollution. That water falls somewhere with serious effects. Just look at what that water has done to all the paddocks between here and Australia, never mind what has happened beyond the East coast all the way to South America. Sea Level rising has already happened, next thing you know it will be impossible to drive from Wellington to The Brothers at high tide. ;) R2x1 (4628)
1404650 2015-07-25 23:52:00 But help is on its way. :lol:

"According to the Climate Change Issues Minister, Tim Groser, New Zealand produced 400 tonnes of CO2 equivalent per unit of GDP in 2013, of which 48.4 percent came from agriculture and 21.9 percent from transport. Since 80 percent of our electricity is generated from renewable sources, and almost half of all emissions come from livestock - there are few opportunities for New Zealand to substantially reduce emissions. However, by spending almost $100 million on research to reduce livestock emissions, the government is hoping for a breakthrough by 2030, which, if combined with an expected increase in the use of electric cars, will enable the country to meet our target."

They've completely overlooked the hot air and pollution that comes from the Beehive. :groan:
B.M. (505)
1404651 2015-07-26 02:23:00 And here's proof from the Greens Website in NSW. :lol:

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I thought we'd already established coal stations do produce pollution. You are pathetic! :yuck::yuck::mad::mad:
Nick G (16709)
1404652 2015-07-26 02:25:00 I'm curious as to how you explain the cooling through the same period?

In 2009, Professor Ian Plimer, a geologist at the University of Adelaide, outlined some facts: “This century temperature has been decreasing, yet CO2 has been increasing. Over the last 150 years, temperature has increased (1860-1880, 1910-1940, 1976-1998) and decreased (1880-1910, 1940-1976, and 2002 to the present), yet CO2 has been increasing. If CO2 has been increasing, how can CO2-driven warming have driven cooling?

Easy - global temperatures fluctuate, and could even be a random walk in the short to medium term, however it is trending upwards in the long term.
Nick G (16709)
1404653 2015-07-26 02:31:00 I thought we'd already established coal stations do produce pollution. You are pathetic! :yuck::yuck::mad::mad:

Yeah, but not as much as you. :lol:
B.M. (505)
1404654 2015-07-26 02:34:00 however it is trending upwards in the long term.

Show me some proof. :lol:
B.M. (505)
1404655 2015-07-26 02:39:00 Pour me some high proof. :lol:

FTFY ;)
R2x1 (4628)
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