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529583 2007-03-02 23:23:00 This system:



AMD Duron 700mhz,
512 mb RAM,
Board First International Corp mobo: AZ11EPCB 1x,
SB Audigy,
MAXTOR STM3200820A (200 . 0 GB SCSI) drive 1
MAXTOR 6E040L0 (40 . 0 GB) drive 0
I have the 200g SCSI drive partitioned (via Windows) in three: 40/60/100g
The 40g is the root for XP and is just one partition on the 40g drive .
There are NO recovery partitions on this system . . it is a clean XP-Pro install by me


See below from Belarc:



c: (NTFS on drive 0) 40 . 39 GB 34 . 27 GB free
f: (NTFS on drive 1) 21 . 31 GB 17 . 71 GB free this I don't understand . . it was a 40g before I tried L
g: (NTFS on drive 0) 99 . 69 GB 99 . 54 GB free
h: (NTFS on drive 0) 59 . 97 GB 59 . 90 GB free

Tried:


Kubuntu
Ubuntu
Mepis

All failed at live install . . . I thought it was the clock and reset it, but that didn't work either .

They ALL resolve a good screen and everything unpacks in the green or OK status, but the wheels fall off at the partition part .

Sound and modem and printer/scanner are all found . USB card is there as is the USB hub too .

I want to do a custom partition, but that's where it falls apart . . . not that I can let it even get to do what it wants to do either . . . it breaks down there .

I would like to put L on the C partition .

The error window (which I cannot save) tells me a long list of stuff to tell Linux forums about . . . but it won't copy/paste into anything that resembles something XP can handle .

Maybe I should take a pix of the screen . . . but the print's awfully small for that I think . . . I CAN try it again next week and hand-copy it out if you thinks it's important .

Whatchu think?
SurferJoe46 (51)
529584 2007-03-03 00:04:00 Hey, Joe.

You're leaning on a broken reed here.Flattering though your estimate of my knowledge is, I don't know Linux.

Now if you meant to say Jen..?
She's the guardian angel you need.
Laura (43)
529585 2007-03-03 00:27:00 Now if you meant to say Jen..?
She's the guardian angel you need.

or Chill :) ;)
stu161204 (123)
529586 2007-03-03 01:23:00 ...I would like to put L on the C partition...

Where does Windows live? I thought it would be in the C drive. In which case you would be killing your Windows install. Is this what you want? Or do you mean the F drive, which is on the separate disk?

And your description of the disk setup does not match the Belarc report.Which is drive 0 and which is drive 1? Which is the master and which is the slave?
vinref (6194)
529587 2007-03-03 01:50:00 Hey, Joe.

You're leaning on a broken reed here.Flattering though your estimate of my knowledge is, I don't know Linux.


Maybe he wants you to write an article about his problems :p
dolby digital (5073)
529588 2007-03-03 02:11:00 Where does Windows live? I thought it would be in the C drive . In which case you would be killing your Windows install . Is this what you want? Or do you mean the F drive, which is on the separate disk?

And your description of the disk setup does not match the Belarc report . Which is drive 0 and which is drive 1? Which is the master and which is the slave?

I'm confused again . . . :waughh:

Linux reports one thing, Belarc something else and I go to My Computer and get another set of results .

If I right click on My Computer>>Manage>>Computer Management, I get C as the System Drive . . . so it's really bollixed up I think .

I am confident that XP lives on C, and I wanted to put L on a 40g segment that I formatted as a partition on the new 200g SCSI hdd .

When we get to the designations of harddrives in NT verses Linux, it gets all confusing to me . . .
SurferJoe46 (51)
529589 2007-03-03 02:48:00 It looks like Belarc is particularly confused here. If you put the Kubuntu CD in the drive, boot and start QTParted it should give you a more complete view of all your partitions (using the Linux naming system). Your disks will be shown on the left and when you select a disk it will list all the partitions and the filesystem type. It also graphically illustrates the layout of the disk. Check your Maxtor disk to see where all that space went first as it may be part of the problem. TGoddard (7263)
529590 2007-03-03 04:34:00 joe
SCSI drives are identified by linux as Sda ("a" being first drive the "b" for second etc) then partitions as 1,2 or 3 ie in your case sda1 would be your c:\ drive

and if I remember correctly SCSI support has to be complied into the kernel so that scsi support is available at boot otherwise scsi disks wont be mounted on boot. I'm not sure if those live distros you have listed have scsi support compiled into the kernel.

as earlier suggested the Sensei's (先生) of linux in this forum is Chill or Jen they should be able help
beama (111)
529591 2007-03-03 04:52:00 Joe, have you got any unallocated space in any of your disks? If not, make some . Then the Linux installer will find it and use it . NTFS is not a native file syetem for Linux .

Forget about the "C disk" "F disk", etc, names . That sort of nonsense is a Windows thing .
Graham L (2)
529592 2007-03-03 04:57:00 See below from Belar c:

c: (NTFS on drive 0) 40.39 GB 34.27 GB free
f: (NTFS on drive 1) 21.31 GB 17.71 GB free this I don't understand..it was a 40g before I tried L
g: (NTFS on drive 0) 99.69 GB 99.54 GB free
h: (NTFS on drive 0) 59.97 GB 59.90 GB free[/B][/INDENT]
Drives F, G and H do add up to a 200 gig drive, it just shows the size after it has been formatted which is ~181 gigs. So drive F cannot be 40 gigs.


I would like to put L on the C partition.

I am confident that XP lives on C, and I wanted to put L on a 40g segment that I formatted as a partition on the new 200g SCSI hdd.You are contradicting yourself here which makes it hard to give the correct advice. So, you want to keep XP on the C drive, and put Linux on the F drive? What data currently exists on the F drive as it is showing with 3.6 gigs already used. As already suggested, fire up a LiveCD and take a look at the partitions and what file format they have with that.


When we get to the designations of harddrives in NT verses Linux, it gets all confusing to me...Apart from some distros that use "part" instead of "hd" (or "sd") to describe partitions it is pretty straight forward.

Primary master IDE: hda
Primary slave IDE: hdb
Secondary master IDE: hdc
Secondary slave IDE: hdd

Note, optical devices will be called "hd" as well, so a CD drive on the Secondary master will be called hdc.

Now, the actual partitions per physical drive get numbered starting from 1 in order of appearance.

Eg, a Primary master has 2 partitions and the Secondary slave has 4 partitions with a optical device on the Primary slave will show as:
hda1, hda2, hdb, hdc1, hdc2, hdc3, hdc4

You mentioned that you installed a SCSI disk? This will be referred to as "sd" instead of "hd" so keep that in mind.

It is very important you understand what the current partitions are if you are performing a custom partition. Select the wrong partition and it could be tears before bedtime (Graham L's favourite saying :p).

If you could copy down a couple of the lines of the error message, it might be enough to give us a clue to what is going on, or even try to take a photo. :)
Jen (38)
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