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530826 2007-03-08 00:40:00 How many tables can you have in a database? Rob99 (151)
530827 2007-03-08 01:25:00 How many tables can you have in a database?

In MSWorks you don't have or use tables. Flat file database as has been said.

I have used MSWorks since version 3.5 and now use version 8 from time to time.

Quite a few people have Access but can't design a database.

Mostly I have MSWorks 8 for when people send me *.wps and *.wdb files.

Thomas01 is correct in that I used Works 4.5 some years back with a client list and spreadsheets for financials.

Why buy Office when YOU can do what you want to do using Works, Open Office and etc?

Why buy Photoshop when PaintShopPro will suffice? Why use CAD/CAM when a protractor, ruler and pencil will work for some people?
Sweep (90)
530828 2007-03-08 01:33:00 I have just written an email to a friend and enclosed a database for her. This like all my work is in MSWorks format. I know she used to have an old copy of MSWorks just to be able to read anything I did, but having gone through several computer changes since, she may no longer have access to it.
Can the database be read in office or anything else?
Tom

Why not ask her if she can read in *.wdb? Hopefully she can. If not, then find from her which files can be read.
Sweep (90)
530829 2007-03-08 02:28:00 Why use CAD/CAM when a protractor, ruler and pencil will work for some people?

Thank you for your support Sweep. Nice to find people who agree with you. Actually I use MSWork v4.5 I did have a much later one but found the improvements had spoilt it for me and it was taking longer to do anything so went back to 4.5

With regard to CAD/CAM I have 50 years of draughting behind me and have used the tools you mention many times. They still are useful. But I also decided I would never again push a pencil up a drawing board once I had got into CAD.
I use a program that PCWorld seems to be determined to ignore. They realise that Autocad etc is beyond the scope both financially and knowledge wise of most people and rarely gets mentioned, but the program I do use DCWIN is dead easy, powerful, and logical compared to most CAD programs.
Pity it is written for Win3.1 (works OK up and including XP)
For some reason it is no longer supported. I keep hoping somebody will either update it or put out a new program as good and up to date for XP.
The program on the last months DVD is interesting but in my view almost useless in comparison. I am trying to learn TurboCad - difficult.
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
530830 2007-03-08 09:11:00 Regarding CAD, have you tried the free app from goggle called sketch up
http://www.sketchup.com/
Rob99 (151)
530831 2007-03-08 19:46:00 Regarding CAD, have you tried the free app from goggle called sketch up
http://www.sketchup.com/

Sure have Rob. Great fun. I do advise people to give it a try. But for me the fun stops when I have a job to do. Produce a floor plan - electrical circuit - windvane detail drawings - check layout for a database - accident report scene(roadway) - tool drgs - complex irrigation system layout - instruction sheets. And so on. For this work you need a serious CAD program not some graphic fun game. Sketch up has its uses (haven't found one yet myself), but routine drafting needs a straight forward 2D routine boring program. DCWIN!!!!
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
530832 2007-03-09 07:36:00 Simplicity and useability are key elements in a program, however I would argue that MS Works Database sacrifices most of the true benefits of a database and is little more than a spreadsheet with fixed-type columns. There are many benefits to a full relational database system, which is able to ensure data integrity.

The OpenOffice.org database is one program which can provide this. If you set up a relationship from the option under the tools menu then the database will not let you violate that relationship. It also offers better interoperability when dealing with other people as it uses open formats. It seems to have limited ability to use more advanced constraints but these are very rare in the target audience of this sort of product.
TGoddard (7263)
530833 2007-03-10 21:08:00 Simplicity and useability are key elements in a program, however I would argue that MS Works Database sacrifices most of the true benefits of a database and is little more than a spreadsheet with fixed-type columns. There are many benefits to a full relational database system, which is able to ensure data integrity.


Well that is certainly one way of looking at it. But I am old fashioned and spent years messing about with massive card index systems in the BC (Before Computers) era. So my view of a database is that it is an organised system of facts. (Pack of playing cards is a database in a way!).
It replaces card index systems. I love messing about with spreadsheets but when it's simple facts you are after, I use a database and must admit to finding no merit in your description quoted above.
I prefer to think of relational databases (or even flat file databases with "look up" ability) as the next step and a wonderful improvement on what we already had.
Running a business with entries for customer, addresses, products, stock control where integration of the entries is required screams out for a relational database. But there are thousands of small businesses where ordinary flat file (MSWorks) can be used very effectively and in many cases
the operators are quicker and spend less time on the computer because they understand what is happening.
As a designer, engineer, instructor and teacher I always emphasized the KISS aspect. I never knew it fail.
Tom
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