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Thread ID: 139992 2015-08-04 12:58:00 Windows 10 - what does it really cost? fred_fish (15241) PC World Chat
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1405860 2015-08-04 12:58:00 Anybody thinking twice about the amount of data on you being collected and "shared" by Win10?

Or everybody OK with it - no different to Apple/Android/Facebook/Google etc?
fred_fish (15241)
1405861 2015-08-04 19:17:00 No different to your cellphone and I selected not to send anything during installation gary67 (56)
1405862 2015-08-04 19:21:00 You can criticize Microsoft for many things but being less transparent about user privacy than Google, Facebook or any of the other major players in the industry isn’t one of them

Microsoft has already been extremely proactive relative to industry norms.

Go ahead and try to find a similarly transparent set of privacy settings on Chrome OS or Android, or even better an actual privacy policy for Android that describes what data is collected and how it is used.
Try and find the privacy policy that describes the data collection practices for the most widely used connected OS on the planet - Android.
nmercer (3899)
1405863 2015-08-04 20:18:00 It's no different to pretty much everything else on the internet.

Some of the options I left on, others I turned off depending on how useful they were.
pcuser42 (130)
1405864 2015-08-04 21:06:00 Microsoft dont make it clear up front when installing W10 unless the customize setting is selected. If you use the default settings, there are several items preselected to send info back.

With android, if you install an app it pops up asking permission to use your details etc, and you cant move on unless you agree - but its in your face.

Apple -- Cant comment dont have any apple devices .
wainuitech (129)
1405865 2015-08-04 21:23:00 No different to your cellphone

It's no different to pretty much everything else on the internet.
Except, it's not your cellphone, or "on the internet", it's on the machine in your home where you keep all your "valuables".
I certainly don't store anything important or private on my phone or "the internet".


and I selected not to send anything during installation Except that's not entirely true - windows.microsoft.com
'Basic' is the minimum, unless you have an "Enterprise edition".


You can criticize Microsoft for many things but being less transparent about user privacy than Google, Facebook or any of the other major players in the industry isn’t one of themIndeed - www.microsoft.com
I don't think anybody else admits as openly that they will collect anything they want, and do with it whatever they see fit ... :lol:
fred_fish (15241)
1405866 2015-08-04 21:34:00 Except, it's not your cellphone, or "on the internet", it's on the machine in your home where you keep all your "valuables".I certainly don't store anything important or private on my phone or "the internet".All my data is on OneDrive anyway. :) pcuser42 (130)
1405867 2015-08-04 21:52:00 Anybody thinking twice about the amount of data on you being collected and "shared" by Win10?

Or everybody OK with it - no different to Apple/Android/Facebook/Google etc?

historically (and this includes MS, but they arnt the worst)
What happens is that these companies get caught slurping data, they designed systems to slurp data
They then say: oops, how did that happen. It wasnt our intention at all to slurp all your data (but wont delete all that stolen info)

Dont like it, then you really have to disconnect from society & live in a cave. Everyone is building stockpiles of personal info.

And yes, android would be by far the worst. Just look at what you agree to when you install those apps . Just why does a newspaper app or flashlight app need access
to all your 'stuff' ?
1101 (13337)
1405868 2015-08-06 22:02:00 Here's a handy link (www.howtogeek.com) that shows a bunch of data collection options you can turn off in Win10. autechre (266)
1405869 2015-08-06 22:36:00 Microsoft dont make it clear up front when installing W10 unless the customize setting is selected. If you use the default settings, there are several items preselected to send info back.

With android, if you install an app it pops up asking permission to use your details etc, and you cant move on unless you agree - but its in your face.

Apple -- Cant comment dont have any apple devices .

Android, its not the apps that are a concern so much, the concern should be on the OS

basically Microsoft is being pinged here for being transparent with the settings

And I imagine a lot of the outrage is coming from users who quite happily use Chrome on their PCs and Android for their phones.

Where are the massive Hacker News threads and Reddit rants about this? 
nmercer (3899)
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