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Thread ID: 139927	2015-07-24 03:17:00	window10 for beginners	bonzo29 (2348)	PC World Chat

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1405285	2015-08-04 07:01:00	Not sure if this question should be here but I will take a punt seeing it is about W10/W8.1. I see earlier that we should backup before W10. I do have backups for older & current comps. We have 2 Asus laptops & 1 old Toshiba laptop that only works from the mains/charger, now on second duff battery. I have a 1TB portable drive with older backups on it. I am thinking of formatting this & backing up the three lappies. Or should & try for an Image transfer using such as Acronis or the built in W8.1 version. Thanks. PJ	Poppa John (284)
1405286	2015-08-04 08:40:00	Not sure if this question should be here but I will take a punt seeing it is about W10/W8.1. I see earlier that we should backup before W10. I do have backups for older & current comps. We have 2 Asus laptops & 1 old Toshiba laptop that only works from the mains/charger, now on second duff battery. I have a 1TB portable drive with older backups on it. I am thinking of formatting this & backing up the three lappies. Or should & try for an Image transfer using such as Acronis or the built in W8.1 version. Thanks. PJ in an ideal world you would back up Personally I have upgraded many many Windows 7/8/8.1 machines and they've either upgraded successfully, or if not successfully it rolls back automagically to previous OS You can't guarantee you will get a successful upgrade as there are so many what-ifs, but I think its highly likely you'll be sweet-as, and even more likely if not it will roll back OK	nmercer (3899)
1405287	2015-08-04 09:12:00	even more likely if not it will roll back OK Nope, not always. Got another call about an hour ago ( just after 7pm - no rest for self employed) , One very annoyed person (polite version), tried to change to W10 this morning, it failed during the install, been told its stuck for over 7 hours now going nowhere. :( ANOTHER rescue of data, start from fresh, they didn't back up fully or image first.	wainuitech (129)
1405288	2015-08-04 09:23:00	yes indeed. more likely that not is that I wrote, it implies some go wrong. 3,000 people a minute are upgrading. the success rate is very high when you consider all the variations of hardware/OS/and installed software	nmercer (3899)
1405289	2015-08-04 09:50:00	Not sure if this question should be here but I will take a punt seeing it is about W10/W8.1. I see earlier that we should backup before W10. I do have backups for older & current comps. We have 2 Asus laptops & 1 old Toshiba laptop that only works from the mains/charger, now on second duff battery. I have a 1TB portable drive with older backups on it. I am thinking of formatting this & backing up the three lappies. Or should & try for an Image transfer using such as Acronis or the built in W8.1 version. Thanks. PJ Please bear with me. Suold I backup any data I want. Such as My Documents including all its subfolders, Music, Vidios, etc? Or Try for for an ImageCopy, hoping to get a copy of the W8.1 & everything else on the drive? PJ	Poppa John (284)
1405290	2015-08-04 10:18:00	Please bear with me. Suold I backup any data I want. Such as My Documents including all its subfolders, Music, Vidios, etc? Or Try for for an ImageCopy, hoping to get a copy of the W8.1 & everything else on the drive? PJ A image backup will take the whole PC, OS, Data, Programs in one file ( or set of folders depending on whats used). That way if something goes wrong when you put it back it will be exactly like it was before. Backing up only data means if it goes wrong you will need reinstall Windows, do updates, reinstall programs. 3,000 people a minute are upgrading. That only means updates are being forced out. What that figure doesn't provide is how many updated successfully. How many are installed via the ISO. Out of those 3,000 whose to say 500 aren't failing ? When it upgrades without problems alls well :) When it fails its a piece of (insert words from owner) ;) Mentioned a while back about MS providing fake numbers, being presented as a pat on the back.	wainuitech (129)
1405291	2015-08-04 10:45:00	A image backup will take the whole PC, OS, Data, Programs in one file ( or set of folders depending on whats used). That way if something goes wrong when you put it back it will be exactly like it was before. Backing up only data means if it goes wrong you will need reinstall Windows, do updates, reinstall programs. That only means updates are being forced out. What that figure doesn't provide is how many updated successfully. How many are installed via the ISO. Out of those 3,000 whose to say 500 aren't failing ? When it upgrades without problems alls well :) When it fails its a piece of (insert words from owner) ;) Mentioned a while back about MS providing fake numbers, being presented as a pat on the back. W...Re 1st para. That looks the way for me to try. Put all 3 laptops onto the 1TB drive. Thanks. PJ	Poppa John (284)
1405292	2015-08-04 11:10:00	W...Re 1st para. That looks the way for me to try. Put all 3 laptops onto the 1TB drive. Thanks. PJ Yep, you can fit several backups on the drive, just make sure you name them so you know which are which. Hopefully nothing will go wrong and it will upgrade fine. :thumbs: Its always better to take a few precautions and make backups and not need them, than to not do it and then say "I should have" ;) I usually use either Active@ or make .wim files via a CMD, OR run a manual backup to WHS. ( .Wim files are slightly different, they are stored on one of my other servers and pulled back over the LAN if needed)	wainuitech (129)
1405293	2015-08-04 11:32:00	Just another query!! When I "upgraded" the other pc I have,I seem to recall it asking if I wanted to keep files etc,bit I didn't seeing it was from a friend and had nothing on it that I wanted. I assume in most cases you want to keep all the programs and data already on the pc,just upgrade the OS.And does this keep the motherboard drivers and all those drivers that are hard to find? Is this OK to do or is better to do a totally new install? After years of running Win 7? Or does the upgrade act like a new install and clean out all the gunk? I have programs that I don't want to loose and data.I do an image with Active twice a week,so do have a backup plan!	Neil McC (178)
1405294	2015-08-04 19:24:00	A image backup will take the whole PC, OS, Data, Programs in one file ( or set of folders depending on whats used). That way if something goes wrong when you put it back it will be exactly like it was before. Backing up only data means if it goes wrong you will need reinstall Windows, do updates, reinstall programs. That only means updates are being forced out. What that figure doesn't provide is how many updated successfully. How many are installed via the ISO. Out of those 3,000 whose to say 500 aren't failing ? When it upgrades without problems alls well :) When it fails its a piece of (insert words from owner) ;) Mentioned a while back about MS providing fake numbers, being presented as a pat on the back. roughly 3000 people a minute are successfully upgrading nothing is being forced out, this is a combination of people that are inplace upgrading from the ISO and being upgraded over Windows Update by the reservation prompt.	nmercer (3899)
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