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Thread ID: 139992 2015-08-04 12:58:00 Windows 10 - what does it really cost? fred_fish (15241) PC World Chat
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1405880 2015-08-18 09:36:00 You have to trust someone. The only question is who.
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Ah, the "resistance is futile" pitch ... just keep all those pet bloggers herding the stock towards the pen ...


Windows 10 is the end of cloud-free computing...for those that choose to buy into it.

MS has clearly decided they would rather be farmers than shopkeepers.

And "well everyone else was doing it too!" was never a particularly effective defence.
fred_fish (15241)
1405881 2015-08-18 10:46:00 Using disable UAC certainly damps it's enthusiasm for squealing to mum, and ankle taps a load of services I vastly approve of avoiding. It is a puny way of avoiding the attempt to get the user latched onto remote programs, or a delaying M$'s efforts at turning PCs into dumb terminals or netbooks. The charges for these remote services will be be justified by "but everybody does it".
Evolution has brought us from dumb simple machines doing very clever things to the stage of having extremely complex, powerful computers doing dumb things with a string of fiscal parasites attached to every link of the chain from user to cloud and back. The Granny Smith strategy? ;)
R2x1 (4628)
1405882 2015-08-18 12:56:00 I vote R2x1 for the next Nobel prize in literature! :thumbs:

Using disable UAC certainly damps it's enthusiasm for squealing to mum, and ankle taps a load of services I vastly approve of avoiding. It is a puny way of avoiding the attempt to get the user latched onto remote programs, or a delaying M$'s efforts at turning PCs into dumb terminals or netbooks. The charges for these remote services will be be justified by "but everybody does it".
Evolution has brought us from dumb simple machines doing very clever things to the stage of having extremely complex, powerful computers doing dumb things with a string of fiscal parasites attached to every link of the chain from user to cloud and back. The Granny Smith strategy? ;)
Greg (193)
1405883 2015-08-18 13:13:00 Using disable UAC certainly damps it's enthusiasm for squealing to mum, and ankle taps a load of services I vastly approve of avoiding. It is a puny way of avoiding the attempt to get the user latched onto remote programs, or a delaying M$'s efforts at turning PCs into dumb terminals or netbooks. The charges for these remote services will be be justified by "but everybody does it".
Evolution has brought us from dumb simple machines doing very clever things to the stage of having extremely complex, powerful computers doing dumb things with a string of fiscal parasites attached to every link of the chain from user to cloud and back. The Granny Smith strategy? ;)

"Using disable UAC certainly damps it's enthusiasm for squealing to mum" certainly does :)
mzee (3324)
1405884 2015-08-18 13:58:00 "Evolution has brought us from dumb simple machines doing very clever things to the stage of having extremely complex, powerful computers doing dumb things with a string of fiscal parasites attached to every link of the chain from user to cloud and back. The Granny Smith strategy?"

Beautifully put, brings tears to my eyes.
zqwerty (97)
1405885 2015-08-18 23:49:00 Ah, the "resistance is futile" pitch ... just keep all those pet bloggers herding the stock towards the pen ...

...for those that choose to buy into it.

MS has clearly decided they would rather be farmers than shopkeepers.

And "well everyone else was doing it too!" was never a particularly effective defence.

And sheep farmers at that.
R2x1 (4628)
1405886 2015-08-19 00:23:00 Let say you've upgraded from Win7 / Win8 to Win 10 during their 1st one year FREE period.

2 years later your HDD died, so ... you need to buy Win 10 to re-install unless you've extract the product key after installation and use that? Not sure even if that Product key will work
SKT174 (1319)
1405887 2015-08-19 01:07:00 Let say you've upgraded from Win7 / Win8 to Win 10 during their 1st one year FREE period.

2 years later your HDD died, so ... you need to buy Win 10 to re-install unless you've extract the product key after installation and use that? Not sure even if that Product key will work

no, you buy a new HDD and reinstall Windows 10 and it will automatically activate from the big bad scary cloud
nmercer (3899)
1405888 2015-08-19 01:08:00 Let say you've upgraded from Win7 / Win8 to Win 10 during their 1st one year FREE period.

2 years later your HDD died, so ... you need to buy Win 10 to re-install unless you've extract the product key after installation and use that? Not sure even if that Product key will work

Windows10 UPGRADE doesnt use the old product key type of install/activation.
The activation is linked to the PC itself, so when you re-install on the new HD, no key is used, it goes out on the
interweb , see's that PC is linked to a valid Win10 upgrade , and therefore activates itself, by magic

....more or less like that.... :-)
Its been asked & answered many times allready :)

Of course by that stage MS knows everything about you & everything youve been up to, ever, and everything to do with your PC, so they will anticipate your every move & will be pre-warned you are about to re-install. As you prepare to buy your new hard drive, MS will bombard you with advertisng about what drive to buy & where to buy it from.
All the time, MS is fighting with Android or the directed advertising, Andoid having the upper hand as they are tracking you via your smart phones GPS and they will want to get credit for the sale of the new hard drive.
This is where googles driverless cars come into play, they will drive you to one of their approved partner retailers regardless
Mac, being behind the times with all this tracking, will send a man to follow you on your quest for the purchase & will physically try to intervene in your choice of HD & retailer
1101 (13337)
1405889 2015-08-19 01:41:00 no, you buy a new HDD and reinstall Windows 10 and it will automatically activate
What constitutes a "new" pc - motherboard?
fred_fish (15241)
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