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538373 2007-04-05 05:25:00 Sorry, I know this has been done over and over, and, believe me, I have read MANY of the threads . But I am totally stumped .

Scenario:- added 256MB SODIMM to mate's Clevo 2300T laptop (probably irrelevant) and that went fine . Then tried to connect the ethernet port to a router using a known good straight cable . Cable unplugged error . Brought said laptop home and have spent around 10 hours on it (I know, it's not worth that time but I hate to be beaten!) .

Tried another straight cable to switch, tried a xover to another machine (both gave unplugged error), uninstalled the device and re-installed a couple of times and with a SIS 900 dvr from the Clevo site . Still nothing . Checked inside socket - nothing obvious . Ran winsockfix . Tried all available media rates/duplexes .

Pings localhost OK . Pings to other address gives host unreachable . Device Mgr says it is working OK .

Is it possible for the socket to just have a mechanical break? It hasn't been used, unless someone tried to insert a wrong plug! Problem is, this machine is soon to go to broadband so I need this port . There are only 2 USB's and I don't like using USB for networking . Maybe I will have to get a wifi card for it .

Any ideas as to how to test the socket, or any other good ideas, gratefully received .
linw (53)
538374 2007-04-05 05:42:00 Pinging localhost tests the software (the TCP/IP stack). The hardware manager says a device is working correctly if it has detected software and hardware. It does not know whether the device is working. It lies.

It's possible to damage a socket, but usually that would be obvious. I have one laptop with an internal SIS 900 Ethernet adapter. I have never been able to make it work, but I can not find any information (let alone drivers) for that Winbook laptop. It doesn't work in Linux either.

I would be tempted to use a Live CD Linux on your laptop, and see if it can make the adapter work. But I'm dubious ... the "cable unplugged" is detected by hardware in the adapter, and the software (on the other computer, at least) is working to that extent. Have you plugged to a desktop's adapter which has status LEDs? That might confirm (without relying on any software) that the SIS900 isn't working.
Graham L (2)
538375 2007-04-05 06:12:00 Thanks, Graham. Yes, the xover went to a std NIC with lights. There was no LED activity. Interesting that you couldn't get a SIS900 going. Surely they went for someone!! linw (53)
538376 2007-04-05 06:16:00 A thought has just occurred. There may be an option in the BIOS setup to enable/disable the Ethernet adaptor (for power saving). Have a look for that before giving up. Graham L (2)
538377 2007-04-05 07:31:00 If you use a bootdisk the 2 computers should have the network card lights on LED. If not it could be a hardware issue or just they not like each other.

Try a diff card on either computer and swap if need be.

If the lights LED do work but only in windows you get that error. MS has some article on it but it didn't work for me.


It could also be that the card works with some routers only.

For me, crossover worked fine for win2k. For winXP no without router. For WinXP with a router yes.
Nomad (952)
538378 2007-04-05 10:29:00 I've got an integrated SiS900 Lan on an Asus CUSI-M board (desktop, not laptop)

But it works perfect in all windows and every linux i've tried on it...
Agent_24 (57)
538379 2007-04-05 10:44:00 My intergrated Lan hasn't worked for years, I have reinstalled windows many times over that period and it still tells me it is unplugged. (have checked bios etc...)

I came to the conclusion ages ago that the lan plug is stuffed.

Well who knows... I tried a Network card (one that I know works) and it still tells me that the cable is unplugged) Go figger?

So in the end I just used my usb to lan adapter which works great.
radium (8645)
538380 2007-04-05 11:00:00 Thanks, all, for replies . Interesting for the range of problems . This is the only one I have struck so far that really seems set to frustrate me .

Graham, I have checked the BIOS twice for any reference to a LAN on/off switch but these BIOSes are so elemental . I am darn sure there is no such facility . If there is, it is VERY well hidden!!

Cheers everybody and thanks again .

Lindsay .
linw (53)
538381 2007-04-05 20:54:00 Could just be a stuffes Ethernet port, I've seen it a few times. You could get a PCMCIA network card, that'll save your USB ports. trig42 (11325)
538382 2007-04-05 22:30:00 That's an option. Might suggest pcmcia wireless, though. External USB box is also another option.

Thanks.
linw (53)
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