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541764	2007-04-17 09:55:00	Hi, Ive got this silly issue which is bugging me and draining valuable time! Pc is taking way too long to boot and majority of the time, only the task bar shows with a couple of icons for Norton loaded. After that nothing loads. No desktop items are loaded (desktop short cuts for example). I have tried to repair XP and that hasnt resolved the issue. I have also tried to re-install SP2 as well. That didnt help either. Booting into safe mode has no problems, desktop items load easily too. I dont believe this is a case of virus. Machine works and I do perform scans regularly. This started happening after I cleaned out the PC for dust and put things back in place. I have also checked device manager, no missing or faulty drivers there either. Any ideas/suggestions welcome.	evofreak (11327)
541765	2007-04-17 09:59:00	Have you tried checking with msconfig to see if there are unnecessary processes that starts up when you log in? If not, go to start-run-type in msconfig-enter. A window will come up. Click at the start up tab, then untick all the things unnecessary as you log in. Or when you cleaned everything in the case, did you put the heatsink and fan of the CPU correctly? If not, overheating may be the culprit and your CPU is automatically slowed down to reduce heat. Hope that helps.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
541766	2007-04-17 10:01:00	How much ram is installed? I would check and see whats running on startup . Or is it taking to long to get to the welcome screen?	Speedy Gonzales (78)
541767	2007-04-17 10:02:00	Personally, I think your main problem is Norton. I used to have a slow start up too - then removed Norton security 05 and it started up extremely fast therefore after. ZoneAlarm and AVG are good, free firewalls and anti viruses. And don't hog anywhere near the amount of space as Norton.	--Wolf-- (128)
541768	2007-04-17 10:11:00	Heating may well be the case, but as far as i can see the fan on top of cpu chip is going, assuming ive put it the right way up? (Not sure how to tell) . . I have used MSconfig to untick unwanted items, except Norton for the moment . Ive got 1024MB ram . Does show up during start up . Previously I notcied that "Microsoft System Management Bios Driver" was showing up under device manager as a faulty driver, so I un-installed it . Then re-installed SP2 . Not sure what the implications of this are . . . Might even be too late . lol Thanks guys .	evofreak (11327)
541769	2007-04-17 22:28:00	Umm, check control panel / admin tools /services . See if there's an entry in services called "MSMBIOS" It may belong to a password stealing trojan/rootkit . As stated here ( . sophos . com/virusinfo/analyses/w32tilebotai . html" target="_blank">www . sophos . com) Look under advanced .	Speedy Gonzales (78)
541770	2007-04-18 00:44:00	I decided enough is enough and formatted drive and re-installed XP Pro . Now it is able to boot but PC performance shows as 100% . Not sure what is causing this! Also I am not sure whether I have mounted the cpu fan the correct way . Is it supposed to take hot air out of the heatsink or is it supposed to suck air and provide air for heatsink? I am confused . Please help .	evofreak (11327)
541771	2007-04-18 00:55:00	What kind of CPU is it?? CPU fans can only go on one way, (obviously u cant put it upside down it wont lock, or fit). As most of them lock into the retaining lock thing on the mobo. If Nortons is still installed, kill it and get something better. I take it, u did a clean install, not install XP over what was installed already?	Speedy Gonzales (78)
541772	2007-04-18 01:01:00	AMD Athalon 2Ghz running on Asus A7N266-VM SE MOBO. Still got my 1024MB ram there as well. Below is a hijackthis log: Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 Scan saved at 12:13:41 PM, on 4/18/2007 Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180) Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\sstray.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Console\NSCSRVCE.EXE C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\msiexec.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Symantec\LIVEUP~1\LUCOMS~1.EXE C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\LUALL.EXE C:\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\binaries\helpctr.exe C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\HelpSvc.exe C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\IWP\Aleupdat.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe D:\Games\Instalers\Hijackthis\HijackThis.exe R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.co.nz/ O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file) O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {A8F38D8D-E480-4D52-B7A2-731BB6995FDD} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {C4069E3A-68F1-403E-B40E-20066696354B} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NAV CfgWiz] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SymProbe.exe -r "C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\CfgWiz.exe" /GUID {0D7956A2-5A08-4ec2-A72C-DF8495A66016} /MODE CfgWiz /CMDLINE "REBOOT" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVMixerTray] "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvMixer\NVMixerTray.exe" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nForce Tray Options] sstray.exe /r O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVIDIA nForce APU1 Utilities] NVATray.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [msnmsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" /background O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe O18 - Protocol: livecall - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\MSGRAP~1.DLL O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe O23 - Service: Norton Protection Center Service (NSCService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Console\NSCSRVCE.EXE O23 - Service: NVIDIA Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe O23 - Service: Symantec AVScan (SAVScan) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe O23 - Service: SPBBCSvc - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe	evofreak (11327)
541773	2007-04-18 01:17:00	Looks ok to me, altho I would run HJT again tick these entries and tick fix checked . Close browser/s . O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32 . EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [nwiz] nwiz . exe /install O4 - HKCU\ . . \Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32 . EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVMCTRAY . DLL,NvTaskbarInit O4 - HKCU\ . . \Run: [msnmsgr] "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr . exe" /background O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file) O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [NAV CfgWiz] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SymProbe . exe -r "C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\CfgWiz . exe" /GUID {0D7956A2-5A08-4ec2-A72C-DF8495A66016} /MODE CfgWiz /CMDLINE "REBOOT" O4 - HKLM\ . . \Run: [NVMixerTray] "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvMixer\NVMixerTray . exe" I would uninstall Nortons, its most probably way out of date . And most probably the cause of the slowness . And get AVG free ( . grisoft . com/freeweb . php/doc/2/" target="_blank">free . grisoft . com) Or Avast Home ( . avast . com/eng/avast_4_home . html" target="_blank">www . avast . com) If u want a free AV program . And install Comodo (http://www . personalfirewall . comodo . com/) for the firewall .	Speedy Gonzales (78)
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