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1407158	2015-08-21 23:15:00	It's all the fault of the Irish.... www.stuff.co.nz Personally I blame Billy Bunter.	ruup (1827)
1407159	2015-08-21 23:33:00	It's all the fault of the Irish.... www.stuff.co.nz Personally I blame Billy Bunter. It is yet another example of how Quality Assurance has deteriorated over the years. Everyone passing the buck and no one taking responsibility, no one from EQC down specifying any QA it seems, or , as in the case of Brownlee, it's all due to cowboy builders. Apparently there is not even a standard for crack repair in concrete..."The New Zealand building industry has no standard for concrete crack injection" www.concreteconnect.co.nz Edit:..........and if Brownlee was up to his job he would have ensured that EQC included QA clauses in the contract to Fletchers and so on down the chain. He is after all ultimately responsible.	Terry Porritt (14)
1407160	2015-08-21 23:43:00	Irish folk were rightly offended/annoyed, including one of the engineers I saw on the news. He felt hurt. But Fletchers - Once a iconic NZ company should have no problems, building/rebuilding homes. One would think. But then they seem best suited for large construction buildings. I saw them daily build their "extra" head office across the road from their other head office in Penrose Auckland. Quite a cool looking - if imposing - building at the time. Google Maps Street View here. (goo.gl)	kahawai chaser (3545)
1407161	2015-08-22 00:09:00	Where are the Fletcher site managers and where are their managers? If you are the CEO then ultimately the buck stops with you	gary67 (56)
1407162	2015-08-22 05:16:00	Well the Christchurch Earthquake Recovery is an absolute disgrace by any standard and below is a press release from Winston Peters who usually gets his facts right before he goes public. The first bit is about Key refusing to release correspondence with some columnist. Previously he had deleted Texts he had exchanged with Slater, so it will be interesting to see where this goes. My bet is further memory loss. Anyway, I just left that in as an extra, but the rest paints a very sorry picture of what goes on or doesn’t go on in Christchurch. Leader's message Just when John Key thought he’d got over ponytailgate it has come back to bite him. Now the Chief Ombudsman is investigating his refusal to release correspondence he had with a gossip columnist and the café owners of the cafe where the PM repeatedly pulled the hair of a waitress. First, we should ask ourselves how low has the prime ministership sunk? Why would a leader of the country be spending time exchanging words with someone who peddles gossip? Surely a PM has very few minutes in the day to spare between appointments, briefings, Parliament, etc? But no, this PM likes the spotlight, and he likes bending the truth. We have to wonder what seeds of nasty gossip does he plant each week to wound his opponents? But he has made a mistake by not handing over the correspondence. Had he done so no-one would have been interested. His refusal makes everyone wonder what he is hiding. Ponytailgate is on simmer, the outcome of the investigation will be fascinating. By the end of this week in Parliament we were asking the government questions about earthquake repairs in Canterbury. It is astounding that a survey of 90 houses, which had had unconsented structural repairs, found that over 30 per cent were not compliant. There have been around 68,000 repairs done in Canterbury. If a third of those repairs are substandard New Zealand has a major and costly problem on its hands. Fletcher Construction won a one billion dollar contract and took the job to look after the repairs from start to finish. It had a stranglehold on the job. Fletcher’s and the Earthquake Commission have promised to check more houses and make repairs but only about 3000. There are concerns that most of the houses repaired will never be checked. One foundation expert says he has an 80-90 per cent failure rate when he checks homes at owners’ requests. It is disappointing that it has taken so long for the major players to do repair checks. The warnings have been around for a very long line. There have been numerous fixes to foundations, which took a beating during the two big quakes. Among these are epoxy fillers, expanding foam and jacking and packing. Some describe them as “cheap”. What has happened in Christchurch is a flow-on from the advent of the neo-liberal doctrine from the 1980s – let industry self-regulate. So, in this case we can point the finger at National Minister Gerry Brownlee. He has the title of Earthquake Recovery Minister and, true to the neo-liberal style, he took his hands off and left it to industry. He ignored the cries of Canterbury residents on so many occasions. At one stage he said they were “carping” and moaning and he was “sick and tired” of it. But he should have taken notice. The survey that found the 30 per cent rate of defective repairs was sparked after residents’ complaints finally led to checks on 14 houses which found fault in 13 repairs. If he had listened, and taken action, instead of believing he knew it all, many Canterbury homeowners would not now be worried about the future. Will the repairs to their homes be good enough, or will they break down? Will they withstand another quake? And will Christchurch become known as the capital of creaky homes, as some have suggested? Rt Hon Winston Peters New Zealand First Leader and Member of Parliament for Northland	B.M. (505)
1407163	2015-08-22 05:50:00	Hate to look at what went on under our house !!!. Scope of work sent out to us after work completed, no costings. On the list "Piles (10) Jack & Pack", we believe workers' did 100 piles from what was said. Today we have received our Excess Invoice for the two quakes 2010 & 2011 and these actually tell us the cost of the two separate damages. Whether we are one of the 6,300 homes to be re-assessed for under floor skulduggery is anyone's guess. But we live in hope. lurking.	Lurking (218)
1407164	2015-08-22 06:25:00	The chickens are coming home to roost, ever since 1984 governments have been dismantling oversight in various industries and both parties encouraged so-called self regulation. They have been congratulating themselves on the hands off approach. The list of QA failures is long, independent QA free from commercial pressures has gone in many instances, Pike River, dairy industry, Fonterra, Christchurch, leaky homes, meat processing works etc "Some plants have introduced a new inspection system: the companies, not the government, now employ the inspectors. The results are frightening." and "Meat shipments refused entry to US " www.metromag.co.nz www.3news.co.nz	Terry Porritt (14)
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