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| Thread ID: 140091 | 2015-08-16 12:00:00 | The Dairy & Coal Industries not thinking outside the square. | mzee (3324) | PC World Chat |
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| 1406802 | 2015-08-22 07:07:00 | We do have quite a few large software companies in health and power billing etc. So come on guys come up with some more ideas of what NZ could be doing. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1406803 | 2015-08-23 03:35:00 | Say we import in $10,000 worth of goods. We pay in NZD. What happens to those NZD? NZD !! Thought all trade was in US$ ?. lurking. Think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand :) We convert our NZD to USD, and pay. The seller has received USD, but we have given up NZD. There are now fewer USD in the currency market, and more NZD. What happens to those NZD? |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1406804 | 2015-08-23 04:59:00 | As mentioned earlier I copied this phrase instead of the usual Reply with quote: Say we import in $10,000 worth of goods . We pay in NZD . What happens to those NZD? Terry in response to your quote: Toilet paper perhaps, rofl . lurking . |
Lurking (218) | ||
| 1406805 | 2015-08-23 10:42:00 | Turn the coal into liquid fuel & gas, cut oil imports, put in more cycle paths, and improve public transport. 'Sasoil' was cheaper at the pumps than normal petrol. As for trade embargo's on South Africa, they only applied to Britain and USA. No one else took any notice of them. They had plenty of low grade coal, ideal for conversion. New Zealand has a problem with lack of pride. Years ago we were encouraged to "Buy Kiwi", now we are encouraged to import! |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1406806 | 2015-08-24 01:44:00 | Do we have the numbers for making fuel out of coal.? There used to be talk of filtering the noxious output of coal, but we don't hear of it these days. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1406807 | 2015-08-24 03:14:00 | According to some on here burning coal only produces steam. Therefore no need to filter in their own minds. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1406808 | 2015-08-24 03:20:00 | Turn the coal into liquid fuel & gas, cut oil imports, put in more cycle paths, and improve public transport. 'Sasoil' was cheaper at the pumps than normal petrol. As for trade embargo's on South Africa, they only applied to Britain and USA. No one else took any notice of them. They had plenty of low grade coal, ideal for conversion. New Zealand has a problem with lack of pride. Years ago we were encouraged to "Buy Kiwi", now we are encouraged to import! If 'Sasoil' was cheaper than normal petrol, why isn't it being used by everyone now? :p |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1406809 | 2015-08-24 07:20:00 | If 'Sasoil' was cheaper than normal petrol, why isn't it being used by everyone now? :p I suspect that it was subsidized, or exempt from sales tax to encourage people to use it. My Datsun Ute went very well on it with a few litres of Cane spirit added :) |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1406810 | 2015-08-24 10:54:00 | Since the 1970's I have heard people say that we should turn our primary products into more finished products so that we can sell them for more . I am sure that by now if this were possible it would have been done . The sad fact is that we are a long way away from our big markets (transport costs) and our wages and costs are high . And those countries want to produce the products there to both save money and employ their own people . Hell its even cheaper to send our fish to China, process it there, and ship it back here for sale to us! We grow a lot of timber . We used to have lots of furniture factories in NZ . But they all closed due to low cost imports . So how could we think about exporting furniture? Except in some niche markets . +1 Beat me to it . :D You are exactly correct Digby . In the 1970s there was a concerted effort in both the meat and the timber industries to develop value-added products . Years of scientific research and development went into such ideas as heat-and-eat meals and hardened pine furniture-grade timbers . Fletchers had a miracle bonded-pine process in the 1990s which was close to steel in strength plus flexible . But it disappeared . In the 1970s our freezing works employed thousands of staff boning lamb, beef, and mutton into more valuable meat cuts . This was an effort to get away from bulk sales of whole carcasses which we'd been doing since Thomas Brydone invented refrigerated meat shipping in 1882 . And today? In 2015? The most efficient price freezing companies can get is by selling . . . whole carcasses . Dang . All that effort, all the development, all the hope of having valuable products and it turns out that our buyers want their own workers to do the boning and cutting at their end . So I don't know quite what we do . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1406811 | 2015-08-24 11:04:00 | Turn the coal into liquid fuel & gas, cut oil imports, put in more cycle paths, and improve public transport. 'Sasoil' was cheaper at the pumps than normal petrol. Unfortunately one of the reasons Solid Energy went from a $1 billion business to liquidation was its efforts at developing coal resources in the way you suggest. It is difficult to understand why because there are new technologies to convert coal to gas and liquid fuels where any carbon pollution of the process is captured. There is a $29 million briquettes plant at Mataura which you could probably pick up for $500k. One owner barely used. en.wikipedia.org |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
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