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| Thread ID: 140101 | 2015-08-18 01:37:00 | GST on overseas goods and services | Terry Porritt (14) | PC World Chat |
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| 1406901 | 2015-08-18 01:37:00 | It is difficult to see that a zillion overseas suppliers would register to pay GST to NZ, so the alternative presumably would be for parcels to be held and examined in customs and only released on payment of GST. Seems to be full of fish hooks and cans of worms, it will be interesting to see. | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1406902 | 2015-08-18 02:28:00 | Unworkable. It will be a mess. I really have no issue with paying the 15%, but will not be happy paying $60+ collection fees. I cant image the thousands of Chinese online resellers wanting to bother with this, they just wont. And may online sellers will let you decide the $ value you want put on the customs declaration, again thats just too much work for customs to check declared against actual value on everything coming in. I would imagine random checks at the boarder to ensure gst has been paid, that could be a nightmare of paperwork & papertrails for customs inspectors, trying to sort out what items have prepaid the gst & what items havnt. As it is, they dont check all big $ items , they cant , and many just get through not paying the gst that is supposed to be paid on goods over approx NZ$400(incl freight) What has happened overseas, is that some couriers collect taxes on behalf of customs. They then can & do add their collection fee & charge you whatever they want , effectively holding your goods to ransom. Some US ebay sellers have started adding the 'taxes', through ebay, officially. Thats a total scam ,for example on 1 $160 item they add $55 . So it has the potentional to lead to sellers , couriers & agents just scamming the NZ buyer. |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1406903 | 2015-08-18 03:09:00 | Blame the people who voted for the drongos on the treasury benches. :-) | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1406904 | 2015-08-18 03:24:00 | Blame the people who voted for the drongos on the treasury benches. :-) "They" have not done it yet. Labour have said they would. I agree that it is fair, but the threshold needs to be set at a fair level, otherwise its just too much work for customs etc. Maybe $50. But I understand that most OECD countries have a threshold of about $25. But then maybe they are not being ripped off by their retailers wit 100% markups and maybe they have more choice as they are closer to big markets and have bigger populations. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1406905 | 2015-08-18 05:27:00 | It is difficult to see that a zillion overseas suppliers would register to pay GST to NZ, so the alternative presumably would be for parcels to be held and examined in customs and only released on payment of GST. Seems to be full of fish hooks and cans of worms, it will be interesting to see. Well, the overseas sellers have no need to to register for GST or any other NZ government scam. All they have to do is despatch the item and Customs will either miss it (happened for me on a $2000 purchase :D) or intercept and hold it, then the NZ purchaser has the option to pay the GST or abandon their goods, which then end up in a Govt unclaimed property sale, whereby the ratbags still get the money, or more if it sells for a higher price than the applicable percentage for GST. Govt win-win, seller win-win, buyer cry-cry! :crying Cheers Billy 8-{( |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1406906 | 2015-08-18 07:09:00 | Unworkable. It will be a mess. I really have no issue with paying the 15%, but will not be happy paying $60+ collection fees. I cant image the thousands of Chinese online resellers wanting to bother with this, they just wont. And may online sellers will let you decide the $ value you want put on the customs declaration, again thats just too much work for customs to check declared against actual value on everything coming in. I would imagine random checks at the boarder to ensure gst has been paid, that could be a nightmare of paperwork & papertrails for customs inspectors, trying to sort out what items have prepaid the gst & what items havnt. As it is, they dont check all big $ items , they cant , and many just get through not paying the gst that is supposed to be paid on goods over approx NZ$400(incl freight) What has happened overseas, is that some couriers collect taxes on behalf of customs. They then can & do add their collection fee & charge you whatever they want , effectively holding your goods to ransom. Some US ebay sellers have started adding the 'taxes', through ebay, officially. Thats a total scam ,for example on 1 $160 item they add $55 . So it has the potentional to lead to sellers , couriers & agents just scamming the NZ buyer. Good points. They would need to visually inspect items to assess their true value. I have bought watches (> $100), and online seller declared them as a mini (cheap) calculators. For me, postal services have started to group my online items for delivery every 2 -3 days - about 10 - 15 items sometimes. Getting a bit concerned, as would be easy to track me, and target me for any future costs (collection) that may occur. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1406907 | 2015-08-18 08:18:00 | Well, the overseas sellers have no need to to register for GST or any other NZ government scam. All they have to do is despatch the item and Customs will either miss it (happened for me on a $2000 purchase :D) or intercept and hold it, then the NZ purchaser has the option to pay the GST or abandon their goods, which then end up in a Govt unclaimed property sale, whereby the ratbags still get the money, or more if it sells for a higher price than the applicable percentage for GST. Govt win-win, seller win-win, buyer cry-cry! :crying Cheers Billy 8-{( how is GST a scam? I like my tax going to the police, on the DPB and dole, on schools and hospitals. |
nmercer (3899) | ||
| 1406908 | 2015-08-18 18:08:00 | Make the overseas companies register... diarrhea talk at it's riches. It's obvious that the target is pointed at NZ. All he should really say, instead of drumming up nonsense, is that he wants to lower/remove that $400 threshold and make all items accountable for GST. Why all this other babble is going on beats me. Then gifting exemption will be abused and that will be his next Value Added Tax area and while he's at it, may as well bring back Duty Tax on all items, none of this Free Trade DisAgreement he seems to be having. Cheers, KK |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1406909 | 2015-08-18 20:26:00 | It's not actually a hard $400 threshold and they can already charge you for any import if they choose to. The actual limit at present is < $60 in GST and duty charges because they say it cost's more than that to collect not because they can't. $60 happens to be the GST on a $400 item which is why it's often stated as the threshold but some items also attract duty charges so clothing or shoes for example could get charged at around $225 www.whatsmyduty.org.nz |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1406910 | 2015-08-18 21:50:00 | From what little I saw on TV, it looks like they are aiming to hti the online purchases AND streaming like Netflix, Spotify. Sky are more than likely behind some of it, crying over lost revenue. Wait for Spark to increase their Plans - Free Spotify -- Oh now and a tax :( |
wainuitech (129) | ||
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