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Thread ID: 79067	2007-05-07 03:41:00	Computer RAM, why is it so expensive?	rogerp (6864)	Press F1

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547960	2007-05-07 21:27:00	Well I think ram today is ridiculously cheap. I can remember when ram used to cost $100 per meg. When a major upgrade was doubling your ram from 4 mbs to 8. For $400. And when a "huge" hard drive was 234 mb. And when a 386 computer c/w a 14" monitor cost over $15,000. Computers and parts are very , very cheap. EXCEPT for anything I want to buy.:waughh:	JJJJJ (528)
547961	2007-05-08 08:03:00	EXCEPT for anything I want to buy.:waughh: damn you microsoft! damn you ea games! whatever happened to optimization? clearly hardware is too cheap :p	motorbyclist (188)
547962	2007-05-08 08:11:00	The first computer I built had 12 kB of memory. The kits for two memory cards (4kx8 and 8kx8) cost me about $600, about 1978. The first PC I bought could use 256kx4 chips at $15.80 each, or 1Mx8 simms at $130, in 1990. Why, indeed, is memory so cheap these days?	Graham L (2)
547963	2007-05-08 08:16:00	The first computer I built had 12 kB of memory. The kits for two memory cards (4kx8 and 8kx8) cost me about $600, about 1978. Were you using REAL BASIC on your computer Graham? I seem to remember my dad getting as a computer back then which was probably an Apple II running MS DOS	winmacguy (3367)
547964	2007-05-08 08:23:00	Apples didn't run MSDOS. Ever. You could get a Z80 card which could handle CP/M. Some people used a Pascal system on Apple II, but it was messy because it used its own disk file system. I mostly used assembly code for the Z80, though I did acquire a BASIC interpreter. I also had a small LISP interpreter in ROM.	Graham L (2)
547965	2007-05-08 08:52:00	Apples didn't run MSDOS. Well I seem to remember using DOS on it from Microsoft(which I thought was ironic at the time since Microsoft wasn't part of Apple) although this was probably around 1981 or so, which considering Bill wrote alot of the first software for Apple since Apple originally didn't have much more than hardware back then. I had my first crack at coding in Basic around 1982 after being shown how to do it in computer class by the teacher.(pity I didn't stick with it)	winmacguy (3367)
547966	2007-05-08 09:03:00	Yes, the Apple 2 had "DOS". "Disk Operating System" It was not written by Microsoft. It was written by Apple for the Apple 6502 machines long before Microsoft bought the software they sold as MS-DOS from 1984. There were computers before Apples and IBM PCs. There were Disk Operating Systems before Apples and IBM PCs and Microsoft. Some of them might have been called "DOS", even just the generic term.	Graham L (2)
547967	2007-05-08 09:06:00	I was just reading up on that, my memory is a wee bit fuzzy considering that I was aged about 10 at the time. I just remember using DOS for some stuff and floppies for games.	winmacguy (3367)
547968	2007-05-08 11:08:00	Yes computer speeds get faster, but operating systems get more resource hungry faster. I made the following remark to the NZ GM of Microsoft at a meeting a few years ago "Microsoft reminds me of the North American Aircraft Company - (long time gone in mergers and takeovers) - No matter how long a runway one builds, North American will come up with an Aircraft that needs more concrete to get off the ground" It appeared to strike a bit of a raw nerve at the time- but fair comment I think.	KenESmith (6287)
547969	2007-05-08 11:12:00	I read a similar comment a few years ago about the guy who wrote the code for Control-alt-delete for Windows who said it was either the most used or most useful key combination on a Windows PC - Bill Gates was sitting next to him at the time and apparently didn't look very impressed :p	winmacguy (3367)
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