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Thread ID: 79420 2007-05-19 11:36:00 Windows 2000 slowdown Boothienz (12290) Press F1
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551185 2007-05-19 11:36:00 Hi guys, new to the forum and seeking some help with Win2K problems. My system originally had a 40gig drive and all ran perfectly for a long time. Then one day I powered up, and 45 minutes later the boot finished. Clicking on any button (or hovering over a taskbar icon) would get a response maybe a minute later. Programs would open up after about 10mins. I put it down to the drive, which would never boot unless connected as slave to a 2gig drive I had. I got a 20gig drive and did a fresh install. All went well until I downloaded 50mb of updates (on top of SP4), at which point the same problem occurred. I ran System Mechanic (it took 36 hours!) but no improvement. I have since re-installed on to a 13gig HDD. This time the problem appeared after Automatic Updates downloaded Installer3.1 and BITS while I was manually checking for updates to SP4.
My PC is a Gigabyte Athlon1.3 with 256mb DDR and Gigabyte drivers for GPU, ethernet, audio etc installed. The machine was flaky for a while until I cleaned the motherboard; it now seems OK because I can boot off Win2k on the 2gig HDD (still SP1) and it will stay running for days, during which time I can access the few utilities I have dared to instal. AVG shows no virus on any of the drives when all connected. Any help greatly appreciated!!
Boothienz (12290)
551186 2007-05-19 17:51:00 Just a thought here . . . but a 40 gig is kinda small what with all the updates, update uninstallers and old file bits and pieces in the works to gum things up .

Have you tried to remove some of the flotsam from the machine with CCleaner . . and be sure to check the hotfix uninstall additions?

If you can't get a decent defrag . . then I suspect that you've used up so much space that you're technically out of room to make much happen at all .

Then again . . . it COULD be malware too . . . hmmm . . . just wait for Sir Speedy (he's really good at this sortta stuff) .

He'll prolly want a HJT scan posted here, so be prepared . . . . . . ;)
SurferJoe46 (51)
551187 2007-05-19 17:54:00 BTW: Welcome to F1...(they are in New Zealand, but I don't hold that against them) SurferJoe46 (51)
551188 2007-05-19 22:09:00 After the 40gig started playing up I formatted it, and then copied my data back to it, figuring it was just not going to work as boot drive. That's when I installed to the 20gig, then to the 13gig when problems came back. The 40 and 20gig drives are both Seagate U series. The 13gig is a Seagate Medallist and I thought I might have more luck with that. If you think 40gig is small then 13 must be minute, but there is plenty of room left because my data is all on the 40 (which has tons of free space). The crazy thing is that even though it is impossible to run programs unless you literall have all day (even Task Manager takes minutes to load) it is possible to run the Windows defrag at normal speed. I have done that on all drives via the 2gig drive, which is stable and I can use that for test purposes.
Also, because the installs to the 20 and 13gig drives were from scratch, there was no fragmentation of files.
Thanks for your reply, and the welcome. I get PCWorld every month and think it stacks up against overseas mags pretty well.
Boothienz (12290)
551189 2007-05-19 23:06:00 Just an idea have you tried booting with the 40 GB drive disconnected. If it is failing it can slow your system to a crawl even if it is not your boot drive. McRuff (12291)
551190 2007-05-19 23:13:00 Yeah...that's a good thought too...if you could, get the voltage readings from your PSU while this is going on. You will need a digital meter..don't try an analog as it'll also load the system just getting a reading.

Hopefully this isn't the problem...other than the fact that once you find the problem, you've got the cure in sight.
SurferJoe46 (51)
551191 2007-05-19 23:14:00 What do u mean by copied data back to it after u formatted it?

What data? Hopefully u dont mean programs that were already installed.

You did jumper the hdd's properly didnt u?? One as master and one as slave?

A bit more ram might help. 256MB isnt that much for XP.

Well u could try hijackthis, but if you've formatted and all, (a clean install), I doubt you'll have malware/spyware.

You did do a clean install didnt u?? Not install Windows over Windows?
Speedy Gonzales (78)
551192 2007-05-19 23:15:00 Ooooooooooooooooh! I saw an Amiga in your profile! Which model? SurferJoe46 (51)
551193 2007-05-20 02:34:00 If you can run Task Manager, allbeit very slowly, you must be able to see which process is using all the system resources.
Which one is it?
jinja_thom (4306)
551194 2007-05-20 03:50:00 W2k is not greedy for disk space; I run it in a 6GB partition on one of my laptops . I'm running out of space (less than 100 MB free), because of data files, but the booting speed isn't affected . (Defrag doesn't go . :) )

It shouldn't ever take that long to boot . Even network operations should time out, and the Group security policies which are sometimes a culprit shouldn't take "forever" . There's something wrong with your system . ;) There might be a clue in the bootlog file .

I'd be inclined to uninstall some (or all) of the upgrades, then put them back one at a time .
Graham L (2)
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