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Thread ID: 80025	2007-06-09 04:21:00	speakers not responding	Thomas01 (317)	Press F1

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557484	2007-06-09 04:21:00	It's my fault I am sure of it. But I do not know what I have done wrong. For years I have used the same system with my amplified speakers. Situation:- 1) I use hibernate when its time to shut down. 2) Then I turn the computer off at the wall. 3) The speakers are controlled through another wall switch and if I need sound (very rarely) then I simply turn the things on. I have been told that I should not turn the computer off at the wall if using hibernate - but I always have done and my computer always starts up again just as I left it. But lately the speakers have not worked when I turn them on and the only way I can get sound is by booting up again. It doesn't happen every time. I have tried turning the speakers on before starting the computer. Again sometimes it works but not always. Not a great problem. But I am curious - what have I done? Tom	Thomas01 (317)
557485	2007-06-09 08:16:00	Hi Tom. Just want to clarify the situation, the speakers are not working lately whenever you boot up the computer from the hibernation and the only way to get rid of the problem is to reboot the machine? Cheers :)	Renmoo (66)
557486	2007-06-09 09:36:00	I have been told that I should not turn the computer off at the wall if using hibernate - Weird. WHy on earth would you do that? You're telling it to go into sleep mode in effect and then you cut the power. No wonder its screwed up. Shut it down properly.	pctek (84)
557487	2007-06-09 11:49:00	Hibernate the just pull the plug??? Ouch, no wonder your computer is not working properly.	beeswax34 (63)
557488	2007-06-09 14:03:00	Hibernate writes the RAM to the HDD then powers off. It's Standby that would screw up is powered off at the wall, not hibernate. But both hibernate and standby modes are fickle at best and are optimised for laptop hardware, even then a percentage end up not working reliably or dying while asleep. On desktop hardware a higher percentage do not work reliably. The modes rely on Windows updates not screwing with the configuration and the drivers playing nicely with all hardware, programs and Windows. Seldom happens. My present Vista desktops work, but I don't expect it to last (and I never use it for the sake of the reliability I require anyway). My present laptop also works. But the previous 12 or so PC's largely never worked, or were that unstable after using the modes it simply was not worth it.	godfather (25)
557489	2007-06-09 22:54:00	Hi Tom . Just want to clarify the situation, the speakers are not working lately whenever you boot up the computer from the hibernation and the only way to get rid of the problem is to reboot the machine? Cheers :) Correct James. You got it in one! The only extra point I would make is the fact that the fault is not reliable. It doesn't always happen. In fact I have just turned on the computer (I turned on the wall switch for the speakers about 2 seconds before) and it is working fine. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
557490	2007-06-09 23:03:00	Hibernate writes the RAM to the HDD then powers off . It's Standby that would screw up is powered off at the wall, not hibernate . But both hibernate and standby modes are fickle at best and are optimised for laptop hardware, even then a percentage end up not working reliably or dying while asleep . On desktop hardware a higher percentage do not work reliably . Thanks Godfather . Your observations agree entirely with mine . I notice other correspondants have the same attitude as some people I have already spoken too . They feel I am an idiot for turning off at the wall after going into hybernate . But they ignore the fact that I have been doing it for years now with absolutely no problems on this same computer . It works . It is only this last month I have got into any sort of a snag . I was interested in your account of the difference between laptop and desktop computers . I didn't know that - but its obvious really that these sleep and hybernate modes were designed for laptops . We learn a little something every day . Tom	Thomas01 (317)
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