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| Thread ID: 140348 | 2015-09-28 02:24:00 | I'm on about Dremels again................ | Billy T (70) | PC World Chat |
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| 1409065 | 2015-09-29 06:17:00 | I suppose for grinding steel bolts, perhaps best in stages. I seen a few YouTube vids where Dremels were used for cutting rounded brake caliper bolts (14 mm) and cutting steel inner bearing race from the front hub. Light work, but perhaps best to do it slow with a dremel. For manufacture of origin: I now remember checking shipping records online by using "Bill of lading" as search term for product manufacture. I did this for Bulldog Winch a supplier in USA. I traced it's manufacture to a Chinese plant. I visited Import Genius online for that info. Used to be largely free - but now involves fees for info. So search Mitre10 NZ Bill of Lading (goo.gl) (search results) in Google (Visit Zepol site). But seems for USA products. Also other web results... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1409066 | 2015-09-29 20:09:00 | Well!! Whaddaya know! Mitre 10 is not on Robert Bosch's list of local suppliers, but Bunnings are! I have an uneasy feeling that this unit may be parallel imported, and if so, R-B may decline to comment or assist. In the fullness of time, all may be revealed. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1409067 | 2015-09-29 21:02:00 | I suppose for grinding steel bolts, perhaps best in stages. I seen a few YouTube vids where Dremels were used for cutting rounded brake caliper bolts (14 mm) and cutting steel inner bearing race from the front hub. Light work, but perhaps best to do it slow with a dremel. In 'pre-Dremel' times I had to cut screwdriver slots in 'one way' hardened steel security screws to remove a faulty door lock. The discs supplied with the Jaycar tool did that in a trice at medium to high rotation speed, making a very neat slot and with minimal wear on the cutting disc. I was very impressed, and from that experience I am inclined to think that cutting a bolt would be no problem. Apart from that, the cutting wheels are not expensive and even when worn down they are still usable for smaller jobs. Incidentally, the reason why I have two Jaycar tools is that I tried cutting off some metal at slow speed using the flexible extension cable. The motors are surprisingly grunty (230 volt brush, not induction) and the extra torque must have stressed the internal drive core, which promptly broke off at the drive end. It was not available as a separate accessory, so I had to buy a second complete unit just to get another extension. The moral here is 'if using an extension drive cable, low speed/high pressure bad, high speed/low pressure good'. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1409068 | 2015-09-29 21:10:00 | I have an uneasy feeling that this unit may be parallel imported, and if so, R-B may decline to comment or assist. It may even be a fake. Could you take it to R-B to see if its a clone or genuine. Im sure they would want to know about fake imports (Im assuming its fake) The chinese love to sell fakes of major brands, & importers love em cause they are so cheap A fake would explain the poor build quality fake like these 2 , are they the same as yours ? www.banggood.com www.banggood.com |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1409069 | 2015-09-29 22:47:00 | It may even be a fake. Could you take it to R-B to see if its a clone or genuine. Im sure they would want to know about fake imports (Im assuming its fake) The chinese love to sell fakes of major brands, & importers love em cause they are so cheap A fake would explain the poor build quality fake like these 2 , are they the same as yours ? www.banggood.com www.banggood.com Thanks for the links. I recall buying other items from that store on eBay. I wish our local retailers could list their suppliers details online, e.g. in PDF. I think Apple have done (or mandated) similar for it's iphones. Many forums people everywhere, ask where branded items/accessories are now made. Our local engineering store Grossman Twigg (grossman.co.nz/) and Power Tools (http:) shop might be selling Chinese/fake tools/parts. There is also a Chinese engineering import shop located near them too...becoming increasingly busy. That owner works in tandem with another Chinese importer in east tamaki nearby where I buy from. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1409070 | 2015-09-29 22:54:00 | Thanks for the links. I recall buying other items from that store on eBay. I wish our local retailers could list their suppliers details online, e.g. in PDF. I think Apple have done (or mandated) similar for it's iphones. Many forums people everywhere, ask where branded items/accessories are now made. Our local engineering store Grossman Twigg (grossman.co.nz/) and Power Tools (http:) shop might be selling Chinese/fake tools/parts. There is also a Chinese engineering import shop located near them too...becoming increasingly busy. I remember talking to a medium level Mitre 10 staff member. He told me they were happy to "offload" some of their products to Bunnings. He mentioned Ryobi, because of the high recall rate. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1409071 | 2015-09-30 06:36:00 | I can confirm that Mitre10 Nelson does get its Dremels from Bosch, I checked today and I have pm'd the phone number to Billy. In the case of Ryobi M10 did an exclusive deal to stock Bosch allowing Bunnings to pick up the Ryobi brand. The same thing has just happened with paint M10 no longer sell Dulux paint instead they have an exclusive deal as of 1st September to stock Valspar the owners of Wattyl and the biggest paint manufacturer in the world. |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1409072 | 2015-09-30 09:13:00 | A fake would explain the poor build quality, are these the same as yours ? www.banggood.com www.banggood.com No, mine is regulation Dremel grey and I don't think it is a copy, but I do think that the manufacturing is well below normal Dremel standards. I tried contacting Robert Bosch at 14 Constellation Drive North Shore on 0800 426 724, which was auto-answered but the number to press for tool service etc returned the pip pip pip signal of 'no such extension'. However, thanks to Gary67 I now have a different 0800 number that I will try tomorrow. It is rather confusing to find that there are two Robert Bosch entities on different 0800 numbers. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1409073 | 2015-09-30 09:54:00 | Spend the additional $$$$ and invest in a Dremel which has the ball-bearing universal motor.... | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1409074 | 2015-09-30 23:07:00 | Spend the additional $$$$ and invest in a Dremel which has the ball-bearing universal motor.... Nothing is wrong with the motor at all, it is the collet chuck that is not matched to the motor shaft thread, i.e it is too loose and when tightened it goes off center and causes the tools to rotate in an eccentric pattern, which increases in severity the further the tool tip gets away from the collet. I am also concerned that the collet is aluminium as that too is loose in the tool, so rapid wear can be expected. The Jaycar collets are machined brass and quite substantial. Thanks to gary67's kind assistance I have now spoken to a Robert Bosch representative and verified by serial and batch numbers that it is a genuine Dremel product. He will follow through in relation to the serial numbers etc, and see whether this is a batch problem. In the meantime, I will go back to Mitre 10 and talk to the tool department manager about the problem (and get a refund) as all functions other than slow and soft polishing will be affected by the tools' eccentricity at the workface. I'll update when I have final outcome. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
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