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| Thread ID: 140348 | 2015-09-28 02:24:00 | I'm on about Dremels again................ | Billy T (70) | PC World Chat |
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| 1409055 | 2015-09-28 02:24:00 | So, Mitre 10 had a special on for the Dremel 3000 2/30 at $100 incl. with 75 'free' accessories, so after twisting Mrs T's arm with promises of finishing off some work around 'Chez Billy' in no time flat (if using the Dremel wonder tool), I was able to purchase one. Well, what a disappointment!!! The collet nut/collet combination was so eccentric that you could not achieve any kind of precision with it at all. The main output (motor) shaft runs straight as a die, but the collet and collet nut are looser than the proverbial d**k in a shirt-sleeve, so the business end of any drill or tool employed wobbles to and fro, acting more like a router than a drill or cutting blade. It is actually 1-1.5mm out of round at the tip of the drill or cutting tool etc. OK, I thought, maybe I just got a 'bad one' out of the box, so I took it back to Mitre 10 who cheerfully provided another, but the replacement is no better. Next step was getting out one of my two JayCar $60 examples (that I was trying to improve upon) to check their collet nuts, collets and eccentricity, but surprise surprise, the collets were substantial items machined from brass, and the collet-nut thread was closely matched to the driver, so drills & cutting tools ran absolutely true. Not only that, they also provided 3 different collet sizes. Further investigation showed that the thread on the Dremel collet-nut was looser than Grandad's false teeth, and the collet itself was a flimsy, thin-walled aluminium weakling that would never stand up to serious work, given the stresses of eccentric operation. I noticed also that the box has Chinese characters beneath all the English info, and the accessories box is labelled 'assembled in China' so it looks like Dremel may have dropped the ball in terms of quality control. The pointy end of the Dremel unit is not fit for purpose, so I'm back to my old reliables from Jaycar at present. I'm not sure where I'm heading from here in relation to the Dremel as I can't find any NZ Master Agent for them as yet, but if anybody on PF1 knows who that might be, I'd be real pleased to hear from you! I don't think I'll get anything more than a refund from Mitre 10, and what I'd really like is an upgrade (if it will be any better). Cheers Billy 8-{) :help: |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1409056 | 2015-09-28 02:59:00 | I was looking at dremmels. Wanted one for some basic (very infrequent) routing. Was looking at the 4000 or 4500 but was unsure if it would be up to this sort of task (maybe cutting a groove in a cupboard door). What do you think you might use the 3000 for? |
psycik (12851) | ||
| 1409057 | 2015-09-28 03:53:00 | A Keyless Chuck (www.widgetsupply.com) is a must for your Dremel. Widget Supply in the USA will soon become your best mates if you are serious about purchasing further "add ons" :) eBay and some of the Chinese suppliers who offer free postage, are also worth a visit. |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1409058 | 2015-09-28 05:59:00 | So, Mitre 10 had a special on for the Dremel 3000 2/30 at $100 incl. with 75 'free' accessories, so after twisting Mrs T's arm with promises of finishing off some work around 'Chez Billy' in no time flat (if using the Dremel wonder tool), I was able to purchase one. Well, what a disappointment!!! The collet nut/collet combination was so eccentric that you could not achieve any kind of precision with it at all. The main output (motor) shaft runs straight as a die, but the collet and collet nut are looser than the proverbial d**k in a shirt-sleeve, so the business end of any drill or tool employed wobbles to and fro, acting more like a router than a drill or cutting blade. It is actually 1-1.5mm out of round at the tip of the drill or cutting tool etc. OK, I thought, maybe I just got a 'bad one' out of the box, so I took it back to Mitre 10 who cheerfully provided another, but the replacement is no better. Next step was getting out one of my two JayCar $60 examples (that I was trying to improve upon) to check their collet nuts, collets and eccentricity, but surprise surprise, the collets were substantial items machined from brass, and the collet-nut thread was closely matched to the driver, so drills & cutting tools ran absolutely true. Not only that, they also provided 3 different collet sizes. Further investigation showed that the thread on the Dremel collet-nut was looser than Grandad's false teeth, and the collet itself was a flimsy, thin-walled aluminium weakling that would never stand up to serious work, given the stresses of eccentric operation. I noticed also that the box has Chinese characters beneath all the English info, and the accessories box is labelled 'assembled in China' so it looks like Dremel may have dropped the ball in terms of quality control. The pointy end of the Dremel unit is not fit for purpose, so I'm back to my old reliables from Jaycar at present. I'm not sure where I'm heading from here in relation to the Dremel as I can't find any NZ Master Agent for them as yet, but if anybody on PF1 knows who that might be, I'd be real pleased to hear from you! I don't think I'll get anything more than a refund from Mitre 10, and what I'd really like is an upgrade (if it will be any better). Cheers Billy 8-{) :help: I should be able to find out tomorrow, when I back in my office |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1409059 | 2015-09-28 06:21:00 | Also on Trade Me www.trademe.co.nz NZ Agents? (www.dremel.co.nz) |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1409060 | 2015-09-28 21:07:00 | Distributed by Robert Bosch Albany Auckland I can pm the 0800 no tonight if wanted. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1409061 | 2015-09-28 23:23:00 | I been wanting to get a dremel, mainly for shearing of rusted bolts or stripped bolts in tight spots . Thanks for info about M10 one's being out of true, and the use of key-less chuck. I use to use grinders, but a bit too bulky and almost "vibrate" your hand off. Sold it. So perhaps a small form dremel to cut small (10 mm hex) to large (17 mm hex size) bolt heads. Perhaps 120 W? gary67 - be good if you find exactly where they are made, i.e. location, factory, etc. (China?) And to confirm if no longer made in USA (presumably) or other countries. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1409062 | 2015-09-29 00:16:00 | I been wanting to get a dremel, mainly for shearing of rusted bolts or stripped bolts in tight spots . Thanks for info about M10 one's being out of true, and the use of key-less chuck. I use to use grinders, but a bit too bulky and almost "vibrate" your hand off. Sold it. So perhaps a small form dremel to cut small (10 mm hex) to large (17 mm hex size) bolt heads. Perhaps 120 W? gary67 - be good if you find exactly where they are made, i.e. location, factory, etc. (China?) And to confirm if no longer made in USA (presumably) or other countries. I find my dremel allmost hopeless for grinding/cutting anything of any size, it is allmost a toy after all, and the cutting disks, being so small, dont last. Buy heaps of cutting disks, not the dremel ones. Get slightly bigger ones from ebay, cutting disks with re-enforcing fibre though them, the dremel disks also break very easy. Good luck trying to cut a 17mm whatever with a dremel (its do-able, I wouldnt recommend it) :thumbs: Almost everything we buy is Made in China now. Almost. Chinese made doesnt mean bad quality at all, they make some fantastic quality goods . The do also make rubbish, but all countries make their share of rubbish. Perhaps the lack of quality issue is in reality a US company charging $100+ for something in reality worth only $30 , and cost even less to manufacture . ie we are paying for the Brand Name heres a quality mini drill, a bit cheaper than dremel :lol: www.banggood.com |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1409063 | 2015-09-29 04:54:00 | Thanks Gary :thumbs: Yes please on the number, though I should be able to find it myself, and they are only 20 minutes or less from my front door! I'd like to bypass Mitre 10 if I can, however, I suspect that this unit is parallel imported! Suspicious indicators are: 1) Mitre 10 does not show them on their website . 2) It does not have the usual plastic carry case for the handpiece and accessories, instead it comes in a cardboard box with a large metal container for the 'extra' accessories and two much smaller plastic boxes with the standard bits and pieces . The handpiece just floats free in the box . 3) The collet nut is so loose that you can't use the tools with any precision at all . I'm sure that Robert Bosch would like to know about the problem, whether parallel imported or not, it is their reputation that might suffer . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1409064 | 2015-09-29 06:05:00 | Mitre 10 don't display all there products on the website. Each store is individually owned as part of the corporate umbrella and they all have the core range which is on the web but each store can also stock non core items as they wish, these are not on the website since not all stores may stock them. I left in a rush tonight and left the number on my desk unfortunately I'll get it tomorrow and pm you Billy. As to where they are made or paralleled I couldn't say as we don't have that information. I do work for the big orange box but i'm in the trade office quoting all day and don't get let out much in case I scare the punters away. :lol::lol: |
gary67 (56) | ||
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