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Thread ID: 80521 2007-06-26 04:10:00 Going Vista in an Apple World myke (7862) Press F1
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563155 2007-06-30 04:29:00 www.youtube.com

Thanks for the latest feedback, I'll reply when I'm off baby sitting duty.:lol:
myke (7862)
563156 2007-06-30 05:32:00 Very good video ;) winmacguy (3367)
563157 2007-06-30 12:52:00 Hi WinMac Guy,
I’m not sure why you would think that I’d have to wait a few months to find out how Vista perform using the likes of Flash, 3D apps and Photoshop . Obviously there are people out there using the software now on Vista .

I guess I’ll just have to go looking for some benchmarking data if I don’t exactly find the answers for what I’m looking for here .

Hey, Motorbyclist . Thanks for your input, specifically on the specs . Would you suggest that 256MB Video card would be of more value in a 2GB config… as opposed to say a 128MB card with 3 or 4 GB… I don’t know how this compares cost wise, but would this provide a better performance kick?

Can you give any specific reasons for steering clear of HP? My only experience with HP, is the laptop I’m typing on… and I was pretty pleased with the turn around and replacement of a battery (a week out from the warrantee expiring) .

WinMac, the age of my students makes no difference to the performance of the Machine, be it Apple or Windows… 1 GB RAM on Vista, yeah I don’t think so . That said, I’d be curious to see what the sweet spot is for Leopard . I know 2GB on my MacBook Pro feels a lot more useful than the original 1 GB . Black MacBooks with 512MB run like rubbish .

We won’t be running home premium . We will go either Business or higher . We get this from the Ministry of Ed at not cost to the school (as noted earlier by someone) .
“…since your only teaching the kids how to do stuff, your not running a production studio . ” You might be making some rather large assumptions here .
myke (7862)
563158 2007-06-30 13:03:00 i'd say the 256mb card in a 2gb ram pc would be the better option. just ensure the gpu and cpu are up to the job (i'm not sure what sort of stuff you guys are teaching so i can't really give any specific numbers)

i stay clear from dell/hp due to the systems sold with less ram than their installed OSs minimum spec, and i hate their bundled crap. you'll find most gamers say the same ;), but for reasons as you said at the very start a large organisation would probably be better off going with a major supplier. at the auckland uni engineering school they have 3ghz dell machines with 2gb of ram and 128mb video cards; best specd dells i've ever seen lol
motorbyclist (188)
563159 2007-06-30 13:25:00 Hi WinMac Guy,
I’m not sure why you would think that I’d have to wait a few months to find out how Vista perform using the likes of Flash, 3D apps and Photoshop. Obviously there are people out there using the software now on Vista.



I was most just thinking in terms of general uptake of Vista and usage of the apps your looking at but if you find some decent benchmark reviews sooner then go for it.
I know that my iMac runs well with 1GB of RAM although it does start to run out of room when I have PSD and XP in Parallels with InDesign running- 2GB of RAM is outside of my budget at the moment.
When I was studying Computer Graphic Design back in 2003 we had to make do with G4 Mac towers with OS9/OSX (10.3) and 256 MB which was a bit of a struggle towards the end of the course when your flicking between 3 apps all the time. Each app on it's own was fine. Id agree with your comments about 512MB being mediocre on a MacBook though.
winmacguy (3367)
563160 2007-06-30 22:36:00 II know that my iMac runs well with 1GB of RAM although it does start to run out of room when I have PSD and XP in Parallels with InDesign running- 2GB of RAM is outside of my budget at the moment.


And I knw my Vista Ultimate runs extremely well with 1GB ram and does not run out a room at all with any program I have run on it. 2GB is better but not essential
Big John (551)
563161 2007-06-30 23:18:00 And I knw my Vista Ultimate runs extremely well with 1GB ram and does not run out a room at all with any program I have run on it. 2GB is better but not essential

Are the apps RAM intensive that your running Big John?
winmacguy (3367)
563162 2007-07-01 05:18:00 Are the apps RAM intensive that your running Big John?

Very. Have my Photo Editing software running on it to edit photos etc fom my Nikon camera. Running Halo 2 (which sucks big time even with 2GB ram wont recommend anyone buy that for the PC). Running BF2142 at the same time as burning DVD's without any errors. etc.
Now have 2GB ram and does not seem to have made te world of difference except to say that some programs load a bit faster due to the smart caching
Big John (551)
563163 2007-07-01 05:33:00 I would say that qualifies as fairly RAM intensive apps. You can never have too much RAM although there can be a requirement for more than you can justify.
Speaking of photo editing have you tried Adobe's Light Room Big John? or are you more of a Photoshop user?
winmacguy (3367)
563164 2007-07-02 03:28:00 lol battlefield2 (and 2142, jwhich was a joke as it's just a mod for bf2) are two of the most un-optimized games i've ever veen unlucky enough to run.

EA games really needs to tidy up their act with buggy, unneccesarily hungry software.

and don't get me started on MS bloatware like FSX and halo (and vista)
motorbyclist (188)
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