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Thread ID: 80519 2007-06-26 03:11:00 Banks demand a look inside your PC Chris Keall (10417) Press F1
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563078 2007-06-26 09:39:00 True again, but most people dont update their system whatever it is, and they dont use firewalls. And they wonder why they get hacked, or get trojans, diallers or keyloggers, on their system. They've only got themselves to blame.Some people just have no idea, they are not stupid or lazy, just internet-naive. It simply does not occur to them that other things apart from viruses can cause harm to their computer. No one has really told them this. These people never read computer magazines, online help websites or other sources of information.

I've mentioned this before (even think I emailed TVNZ with this suggestion :p), they ought to have a sponsored (but non-biased) 1 minute segment before the news on basic computer safety. Sort of like "Food in a minute", but for computers. They could cover a variety of topics and have www.netsafe.org.nz for example, as a place to go for further information.

Surely by osmosis some of it should sink in ...
Jen (38)
563079 2007-06-26 10:02:00 Some people just have no idea, they are not stupid or lazy, just internet-naive. It simply does not occur to them that other things apart from viruses can cause harm to their computer. No one has really told them this. These people never read computer magazines, online help websites or other sources of information.

Thats true , I agree most people wouldnt have a clue how and what they can get infected by. I may have used the wrong "wording" in my previous post.

I would say most of the users in here who did get infected didnt "know" that whatever they installed could infect them (unless they did a search in Google/Yahoo beforehand). To see if, whatever they were installing would install something nasty, like malware.

But it is common sense, to keep things like Windows updated. MS dont do updates for fun, its for your protection.

People should also have enough common sense (if they use P2P programs for example) to SCAN the files they get (hopefully they've got an AV program) before they use /open it.

Like in Avast's case, it can detect a trojan / whatever, while you're downloading the file, whether its off a site, or whether you're using a P2P program. It'll tell u before the download has finished. And give u the option to delete it straight away.

And not to go to Warez sites / dodgy sites. Since, I would say this is the main reason, why most of them would get infected in the first place.

And as Porkster said:

Security is really a partnership, both the bank and I should try to be as secure as we can

Its usually the user, who's at fault.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
563080 2007-06-26 10:37:00 Trouble is, a lot of people see a computer as just another appliance, and dont realise it needs a certain amount of user input and diligence to keep themselves safe and trouble-free on the interweb (or are too lazy or thick (or cheap)!).
I have cleaned a few machines for other people, invariably they either have never installed any internet security at all, or have never updated it or Windows, then go and download all kinds of crap, and are highly surprised when they get hacked/zombied/phished/dailered/virused, and their computer is running at a crawl.
I think people are being totally irresponsible if they dont protect themselves, before even going on the net (let alone online-banking).:annoyed: :D
feersumendjinn (64)
563081 2007-06-26 10:43:00 Sounds like a bit of education is required. winmacguy (3367)
563082 2007-06-26 10:50:00 Sounds like a bit of education is required.

Yeah, Jens idea is a good one :)
feersumendjinn (64)
563083 2007-06-26 10:52:00 Yeah, Jens idea is a good one :)

Definitely more useful than that Food in a Minute clip.:) They could even run a bunch of 30second ads on 3 from 6 pm onwards.
winmacguy (3367)
563084 2007-06-26 19:44:00 I would say most of the users in here who did get infected didnt "know" that whatever they installed could infect them (unless they did a search in Google/Yahoo beforehand). To see if, whatever they were installing would install something nasty, like malware.

You only need to visit a site that runs third party advertising scripts and bang- you've got a key logger. My kids use popular kids sites quite often and until I got NoScripts for firefox I would remove at least one keylogger every 2 weeks. They were not "dodgy" sites.

Most people who drive cars don't know how to fix them, why should computers be any different, after all didn't I just buy "the world's most secure operating system" LOL
porkster (6331)
563085 2007-06-26 19:50:00 You only need to visit a site that runs third party advertising scripts and bang- you've got a key logger. My kids use popular kids sites quite often and until I got NoScripts for firefox I would remove at least one keylogger every 2 weeks. They were not "dodgy" sites.

Stuff like that doesn't get onto my machine as I don't use Windows on the net. ;)
winmacguy (3367)
563086 2007-06-26 21:01:00 You only need to visit a site that runs third party advertising scripts and bang- you've got a key logger. My kids use popular kids sites quite often and until I got NoScripts for firefox I would remove at least one keylogger every 2 weeks. They were not "dodgy" sites.



I'd suggest that your kids are visiting other sites as well.
PaulD (232)
563087 2007-06-26 21:13:00 I'd suggest that your kids are visiting other sites as well.

On a recent BBC article it suggested that 1 in 10 legit sites on the net contained some form of malware designed to infect Windows PCs.
winmacguy (3367)
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