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Thread ID: 80848	2007-07-06 12:43:00	Is there any interesting IT courses available at NZ uni?	PedalSlammer (8511)	Press F1

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566536	2007-07-07 03:14:00	Jap 2nd hand cars cost between $1000 - $5000 NZ and depending on the model are not that expensive to run. Moped would be cheaper and cheaper to run. Well, true but then you HAVE to get the car or whatever first. You dont get money on trees, would be nice if u could. Licensing doesn't actually cost that much if your earning a weekly wage or salary Which I'm not, well I wouldnt call it a wage lol. Since I'm not working..	Speedy Gonzales (78)
566537	2007-07-07 03:27:00	The first thing you need to do is map out where you want to go, and what qualifications and experience are needed, and you should look a bit beyond your initial ambitions at the potential future career paths.The academic orientation of some degree courses are not necessarily the best entry into an occupation that is by and large practical and hands on. In practical terms Diplomas and Certification for MS Sytems etc can be very relevant. I can recommend the University of Auckland Computer Science courses, but these tend to be quite broad, a lot of theoretical knowledge is gained, but they are not exactly tuned to the commercial world. The University's Business School has some excellent computing papers, and I can recommend these. It is important to realise that a university degree, while being a recognition of having successfully studied a prescribed course does not necessarily lead to the right job. The commercial relevance of one's qualifications, and experience are major criteria in determining job opportunities. It is 7 years since I retired from the University, and I admit I am a bit out of touch, but the University of Auckland does have some excellent careers advisers, and also open days, and I recommend that you take the time and make the effort to check them out. To succeed in University academic studies, you need not only to meet the course entry criteria,but also need to develop a good work ethic and basic time management skills, it never ceased to amaze me that students were struggling to meet assignment deadlines, that they had known of for three weeks, not because of workload, but poor time management and procrastination. The first essential to to keep on top of the lecture program, go over the days lecture material each evening and be sure you understand it. Attending lectures where the content goes right over your head, because it has been too much effort to ensure that you understand the subject as it progresses is a recipe for dropping out - if you need help ask. When I was an executive in the motor industry, our IT manager would rather take a promising school leaver on and supervise their training and development, than take a punt on a graduate with no commercial experience, who had high salary expectations. So this is another avenue you can explore, maybe you can find a company IT manager, who is prepared to take you on, and give you a chance, and study relevant subjects part time. Good luck, what determines your success is largely up to you.	KenESmith (6287)
566538	2007-07-07 03:39:00	Which I'm not, well I wouldnt call it a wage lol. Since I'm not working.. That would be where the "pull finger and get your arse into gear" factor - or to put it politely "positive can do attitude" comes into it, otherwise you spend the rest of your life as a sickness beneficiary and get no where because nothing appears to be possible anymore. Apologies for the bluntness there Speedy but as long as your brain is functioning there is no reason why you can't earn a living if you have the skills which you obviously do.	winmacguy (3367)
566539	2007-07-07 03:46:00	That would be where the "pull finger and get your arse into gear" factor - or to put it politely "positive can do attitude" comes into it, otherwise you spend the rest of your life as a sickness beneficiary and get no where because nothing appears to be possible anymore. Apologies for the bluntness there Speedy but as long as your brain is functioning there is no reason why you can't earn a living if you have the skills which you obviously do. Well actually I'm not on a sickness benefit, - never have been (WINZ wanted me to, but the Dr wouldnt put me on it). Get your facts right. I have a phobia due to the drugs I used to take, they screwed me up. And waiting for someone to check me out / help me out. And yer I have worked before if u hadnt noticed up to Oct last yr for 15-16 yrs.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
566540	2007-07-07 04:38:00	Well actually I'm not on a sickness benefit, - never have been (WINZ wanted me to, but the Dr wouldnt put me on it). Get your facts right. I have a phobia due to the drugs I used to take, they screwed me up. And waiting for someone to check me out / help me out. And yer I have worked before if u hadnt noticed up to Oct last yr for 15-16 yrs. So does that mean that your phobia prevents you from working from home while online?	winmacguy (3367)
566541	2007-07-07 04:48:00	So does that mean that your phobia prevents you from working from home while online? Umm nope. If I had something I would, thats if I could (depending on what it was).	Speedy Gonzales (78)
566542	2007-07-07 05:05:00	PedalSlammer: Depending on your age you could get provisional enterence to a uni (if you are over 20 that is). Doing a Diploma will get you into a degree. In the first semester infact, if you can pull off a B average. Or after completing your first year (ie you pass 8 papers or gain 120 credits in Level 4 or above.) A BE and a BSc is recognised (almost) worldwide. However Diplomas and BET and (Bach. Eng. Technology and Bach. Technology) and certificates are not. Maybe an employer will take it into consinderation, but it will not help you much (if at all). Again the most important thing is making social networks/connections. They will help you as much as having a good degree. A friend of mine, who is a school drop-out, self taught programmer is doing for an very big international in Europe. And is getting a very good paycheck. Becasue he knew the right people and he demonstrated his skill. A degree is a peice of paper, you have to PROVE yourself to be taken seriously. Having one is good, but you must also know your ****. Because there are many people competing for the same job. And whats worse we have people who would be willing to work for a $5 a day to do the same thing you can do. You have to give people a reason to hire you. There are over 20 million engineers in India alone and any of them would kill for a job. SO you have to give corporations a reason to hire you instead of some guys who charge hundreds of times less. But as already said, its just too expensive to buy a car then a licence then petrol and everything else. I cant be bothered... I've got better things to spend money on. I guess I could try something at home. Just as long as I dont have to pay for it, I cant afford it, as Im not working. And I dont really want to get a student loan. Ive got enough bills already. That sounds very narrow minded. I'm 20. I have a car. I pay for petrol. I pay for insurance. I pay the rent. I pay for everything. I work less than 20 hours a week, I am a full time student. I get 180$ student allowence. I am sorry, but how can one not afford a car or a driver's license? Its 80$ isnt it? Why think of the cost of studying? Why not think about how much you will earn once you finish? You can sit all day in your house on your benifit (I assume, since you said you dont work) and live a sub-standard life. Or you can get out of your house get a part time job, sign up for a uni and get a degree. And earn 50$+k per year. Which sounds better? I know guys my age who study full time and still work enough to pay for their uni fees. They can do it, why cant you? But on the other hand, its your life, and your problem (of which I know nothing). Do with it as you will. I mean no offence by this post. And I apologise if I offended you (or anyone else) in anyway.	Cato (6936)
566543	2007-07-07 05:11:00	Umm nope. If I had something I would, thats if I could (depending on what it was). Have you thought about approaching the likes of a certain tech magazine and doing a PC Dr fixit/advisor column or something for a small fee?	winmacguy (3367)
566544	2007-07-07 05:12:00	That would be where the "pull finger and get your arse into gear" factor - or to put it politely "positive can do attitude" comes into it, otherwise you spend the rest of your life as a sickness beneficiary and get no where because nothing appears to be possible anymore. Apologies for the bluntness there Speedy but as long as your brain is functioning there is no reason why you can't earn a living if you have the skills which you obviously do. And I am the one described as the attacker. Excuse me.	Cicero (40)
566545	2007-07-07 05:12:00	My tutor already explained to me I should go for further education since I've no much difficulty with the course . Yeah, the course was pretty simple and I'm the one who finished all the assignment first . Maybe that is your tutors polite way of saying your not ready for the real world, and some more english lessons would be helpful :xmouth:	plod (107)
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