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Thread ID: 140576 2015-11-05 22:19:00 Key & Co. in form again. B.M. (505) PC World Chat
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1411012 2015-11-06 21:18:00 A very big +1 for this. While their are legal divides on the matter of race, there will always be racism.

Regretfully, we will indeed always have Racism practiced by some individuals, but it certainly shouldn’t be practiced at Government Level, whether that be Central Government, or Local Government.
B.M. (505)
1411013 2015-11-06 21:31:00 The larger conundrum is whether all water belongs to the Crown - and thus the people. Or instead water belongs to those who find it or alternatively own it already.

We have a unusual situation in NZ whereby Maori may indeed have legitimate clams to ownership of streams and rivers. Fine.

That leaves underground water. In many parts of the world owning bores is a private right. And it is in NZ but there is a strong public argument that water belongs to the Crown, not private property owners. At the moment this isn't argued but it is a decision which we are going to have to deal with.

Well Winston some see it differently.

Here is how Judge Anthony Willy sees it:

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And remember the “Queen’s Chain”, what happened to that?
B.M. (505)
1411014 2015-11-07 01:21:00 And remember the “Queen’s Chain”, what happened to that?

Too hard basket and will never come to pass .

As kids we used to think there was access from the middle of the river out to 22 yards (chain), our father was a keen fisher and we may have heard that from him .

Needless to say a farmer who owned land alongside a river we used to eel in, used to chase us from the river every time he spotted us, his homestead was about 220 yards up the hill, but he sure could run, miss those days tho .

lurking .
Lurking (218)
1411015 2015-11-07 02:23:00 And remember the “Queen’s Chain”, what happened to that?

Too hard basket and will never come to pass .

As kids we used to think there was access from the middle of the river out to 22 yards (chain), our father was a keen fisher and we may have heard that from him .

Needless to say a farmer who owned land alongside a river we used to eel in, used to chase us from the river every time he spotted us, his homestead was about 220 yards up the hill, but he sure could run, miss those days tho .

lurking .

I’m pretty sure it was law when I was a kid and you couldn’t be trespassed off it .

My recollection of it was it was measured from the edge of the river or stream for as you say 22 yards (chain) each side and the law went back to Queen Victoria hence the Queens Chain .

Farmers being farmers, used to graze the Queens Chain at the back of their property if they had a waterway, and the Long Acre in front . :D
B.M. (505)
1411016 2015-11-07 03:46:00 & how does this make JK dangerous ?
iwi will want to charge, at the moment I get charged anyway . So I'll just be paying someone else. Big deal, I may end up paying less.
iwi may want control.. control to stop wide spread pollution of our water supplies perhaps. Its not as if Whitey has taken care of fresh water supplies , at all.

Its .. just .. another .. anti Maori .. anti National Party .. rant

Perhaps they other side of the storey.. heaven forbid .
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“The Government’s policy is that nobody owns the water. Nor is a national settlement like that achieved on fisheries being considered. "

" So I'll just be paying someone else. Big deal, I may end up paying less." Unlikely you'll be paying less most likely more if the local councils pass on this new water rort. Time we stopped pandering to these Maori groups and kept NZ for the rest of us..
paulw (1826)
1411017 2015-11-07 04:35:00 " So I'll just be paying someone else. Big deal, I may end up paying less. " Unlikely you'll be paying less most likely more if the local councils pass on this new water rort. Time we stopped pandering to these Maori groups and kept NZ for the rest of us..

Yes, if anybody thinks they might get something cheaper, or a better deal, by putting Maori Activists in charge must be away with the fairy’s. :lol:
B.M. (505)
1411018 2015-11-07 05:23:00 Putting the Fairies in charge won't help us either :) :) Zippity (58)
1411019 2015-11-07 05:47:00 No we already tried that and it ain't working gary67 (56)
1411020 2015-11-07 23:04:00 They say a picture says a thousand words, and if that is the case this say’s it all.


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B.M. (505)
1411021 2015-11-07 23:22:00 If a river full of water that is owned by maori were to flood nearby properties and cause $zillions of damage, who would be responsible .

Would we see insurance companies paying out to property/landowners then suing maori because it is their property that was the cause of flooding?

Ken
kenj (9738)
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