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Thread ID: 81385	2007-07-26 00:50:00	Microsoft admits Vista failure	Bantu (52)	Press F1

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572826	2007-07-26 00:50:00	WITH TWO OVERLAPPING events, Microsoft admitted what we have been saying all along, Vista, aka Windows Me Two (Me II), is a joke that no one wants. :thumbs: uk.theinquirer.net	Bantu (52)
572827	2007-07-26 01:46:00	Bummer eh. Mind you the Inquirer has the journalistic integrity of The Sun.	winmacguy (3367)
572828	2007-07-26 02:20:00	that is, perhaps, the most poorly written and researched piece of 'journalism' I've read all year. and the headline is a blatant lie.	Jan Birkeland (4741)
572829	2007-07-26 02:22:00	The Inquirer is the dodgiest "news and reviews" website out there....:yuck:	wratterus (105)
572830	2007-07-26 02:56:00	integrity of The Sun. Page 3 always impressed me:-)	Bantu (52)
572831	2007-07-26 03:03:00	Microsoft admits Vista failure By Charlie Demerjian in Beijing: Saturday 21 April 2007, 12:20 WITH TWO OVERLAPPING events, Microsoft admitted what we have been saying all along, Vista, aka Windows Me Two (Me II), is a joke that no one wants . It did two unprecedented things this week that frankly stunned us . Dell announced that it would be offering XP again on home PCs . The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than Me II . It can't do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep class, well, you take what you are shovelled . This is classic abusive monopoly behaviour, Microsoft wrote the modern book on it . It pulled all the major OEMs in by twisting their arms with the usual methods, and they again all fell into line . Never before has anyone backpedalled on this, to do so would earn you the wrath of Microsoft . But Dell just did . This means that Me II sales are at least as bad as we think, the software and driver situation is just as miserable, and Dell had no choice but to buck the trend . If anyone thinks this is an act of atonement for foisting such a steaming pile on us, think again, it doesn't care about the consumer . What happened is, the OEMs revolted in the background and forced Microsoft's hand . This is a big neon sign above Me II saying 'FAILURE' . Blink blink blink . OK, Me II won't fail, Microsoft has OEMs whipped and threatened into a corner, it will sell, but you can almost hear the defectors marching toward Linux . This is a watershed . The other equally monumental Me II failure? Gates in China launching a $3 version of bundled XP . Why is this not altruism? Well, it goes back to piracy and how it helped enforce the MS monopoly . If you can easily pirate Windows, Linux has no price advantage, they both cost zero . With Me II, Microsoft made it very hard to pirate . It is do-able, you can use the BIOS hack and probably a host of others, but the point is, it raised the bar enough so lots of people have to buy it . Want to bet that in a country with $100 average monthly salary, people aren't going to shell out $299 for Me II Broken Edition? What did MS do? It dropped the price about 100x or so . I can't say this is unprecedented, when it made Office 2003 hard to pirate it had to backpedal with the student edition for about $150 . This time though, things are much more desperate . If you fit Microsoft's somewhat convoluted definition of poor, it still wants to lock you in, you might get rich enough to afford the full-priced stuff someday . It is at a dangerous crossroads, if its software bumps up the price of a computer by 100 per cent, people might look to alternatives . That means no Me II DRM infection lock in, no mass migration to the newer Office obfuscated and patented file formats, and worse yet, people might utter the W word . Yes, you guessed it, 'why' . People might ask why it is sticking with the MS lock in, and at that point, it is in deep trouble . So, it did the unthinkable, and dropped the price . I won't bother to hunt down all the exec quotes saying how people can't afford clean water would be overjoyed to sell kidneys to upgrade to the new version of Office, but they are out there . This was a sacred cow, and it is now hamburger backed up against the wall . These two actions by Microsoft are proof of what I suggested three years ago . Microsoft has lost its ability to twist arms, and now it is going to die . It can't compete on level ground, so is left with backpedalling and discounts of almost 100 times . What we are seeing is an unprecedented shift of power . It is also an unprecedented admission of failure . And the funniest part about the moves made? They are the wrong things to do . Microsoft is in deep trouble . µ Yes they aren't the best IT news but I loved their comment all the same . MEII:lol:	pctek (84)
572832	2007-07-26 04:13:00	Excellent! You need to go to one of the worst newspapers in the world to support your theory:thumbs: Keep posting!!!	beeswax34 (63)
572833	2007-07-26 04:26:00	seriously now guys, yes vista has problems and it's a good Idea to hold off, especially given that XP is all you currently need. But everyone seems to be forgetting that when XP came out it went through an almost identical phase of everyone bashing it, saying it was a resource hog, and advocating sticking with Windows 98 considered to be the best and most stable version. Now at the end of the XP cycle it's considered the best windows ever. With Vista it's too soon to tell, but you can bet over the next couple of years more & more new software will require it to run forcing us to adopt Vista or be left behind. From my personal experience using a dual boot setup with vista and XP, I find after a few months I've sorted out the issues I was having and am using XP less and less (with a few notable exceptions)	dugimodo (138)
572834	2007-07-26 04:42:00	Where's the promised 'admission' by Microsoft???	johcar (6283)
572835	2007-07-26 04:48:00	Yes they aren't the best IT news but I loved their comment all the same. MEII:lol: Hmmmmmm, wasn't XP refered to as the ME of NT a while back?	Bonez (10505)
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