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| Thread ID: 81489 | 2007-07-29 04:53:00 | Bloody Windows SP 2 !! | Espresso_Addict (8458) | Press F1 |
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| 573818 | 2007-07-29 04:53:00 | I have recently purchased a new upgrade box, and it has been running without any problems on Xp Pro untill this afternoon when it updated with Service Pack 2. Now it goes through the boot process but won't load Windows.....The screen stays blank for about 60 Secs and then the system reboots.....any suggestions as to what my next move should be?? Cheers Grant ( sys specs: 2.1AMD Dual Core, 1gb Ram) |
Espresso_Addict (8458) | ||
| 573819 | 2007-07-29 05:00:00 | Did you scan for spyware/malware BEFORE you installed SP2?? SP2 will cause probs / and will reboot XP, if you've got any installed. Does it boot into safe mode? If it does check event viewer, and see what it says. A lot of people moan about SP2, when it crashes (after they've installed it). Thats if it wasnt slipstreamed. But its usually because they're infected with spyware/trojans/malware or something. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 573820 | 2007-07-29 05:12:00 | do a repair instll with your windows SP1 disc. i'm a little suprised an upgrade box would come with only XPsp1 unless the XPpro is a bit dodgy ;) |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 573821 | 2007-07-29 05:25:00 | i'm a little suprised an upgrade box would come with only XPsp1 unless the XPpro is a bit dodgy ;) That's what I was thinking....Can't remember the last time I installed XP with only SP1 or less. If I ever have to reload a customers machine and they only have a SP1 CD or less I always use one with SP2 slipstreamed. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 573822 | 2007-07-29 05:30:00 | This is what happens when someone waits until they have a really old operating system and waits until it's too late to install SP-2. SP-2 likes a fresh or pretty-close-to-fresh XP install to work correctly. In all the complaints I've heard about SP-2, it's almost always on a long in the tooth OPSYS that shouldda been updated months ago. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 573823 | 2007-07-29 05:54:00 | Thanks team for the advice... It was a new machine without any software at all and a clean install of Xp. I have used the tried and true method of fixing windows errors.....turn it off at the wall and switch it back on....running like a charm....lol | Espresso_Addict (8458) | ||
| 573824 | 2007-07-29 05:56:00 | Oh come on. This belief in Microsoft. :waughh: My hacker/cracker whatever you call it friend did an investigation on SP2 to see exactly what it did do and if he really should bother when something he installed balked cause he only had SP1. He said it just did a lot of IE patching. So he fiddled about and made the program install without SP2. You all go on like its supposed to do such magical things. Sure I install it with new builds, mainly cause its built in now, but I get along with mine just fine on SP1 and so do hundreds of others around here. More important is the malware scans. Not MS crap. Look how many updates are released to fix screwups with previous updates. And you all have such faith. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 573825 | 2007-07-29 06:14:00 | Well . . I agree in part about the IE re-write . . . but it also changes a lot in Windows Explorer too . . and that's a BIG deal for security . It is almost a total re-write of the XP OPSYS . It is huge and I don't suspect it was all for naught by M$ . . it actually cost them a lot of time/money/talent no matter what we personally think of Billy or his goons . I wouldn't want to pay the postage alone for the mailing out of the cd's . . which were free too I might add . No . . sour grapes aside, SP-2 is very important and if you or anyone else gets away without it, then fine . . . I'll not argue with success . Just remember that the whole concept of SP-2 was to add some security to n00bs and non-tweakers and whitehat wanna be's . If it wasn't necessary do you actually think Bill would have gone to all the trouble and expense? Not everybody can gain from the experiences of those who are like you . . that is, not getting into trouble without SP-2 . . for the greater number of people out there, don't let them eat cake . I personally admire your talents and I am not trying to blow smoke up under your dress . As proof, I offer the spam that SOMEBODY answers every day for Mubuto Ngomo's bank deal with lost records on a pile of money to share with you if you just send him $500 for proof of sincerity and etc . . . etc . . . Those are the types of people who need SP-2 the most . It's a good thing . You have taught me a great deal in the time I have been here to read your answers, and although I don't always agree with them, I respect your talents and abilities very much . Good thing too . . I have a Mexican case of beer for anyone who visits from F1, and yours is getting very cold waiting for your knock at my SoCal home . You're welcome whenever . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 573826 | 2007-07-29 07:49:00 | She's just grumpy because she's gonna be a Grandma SurferJoe :D : D :D However- I had great difficulty with SP2 on my system (no- no spyware or anything like that), I also wasn't impressed with Bill wanting to WGA me all the way to Wichita or where-ever, been running fine with SP1 ever since :thumbs: |
Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 573827 | 2007-07-29 21:29:00 | If it wasn't necessary do you actually think Bill would have gone to all the trouble and expense? As proof, I offer the spam that SOMEBODY answers every day for Mubuto Ngomo's bank deal with lost records on a pile of money to share with you if you just send him $500 for proof of sincerity and etc...etc... Overview of Windows XP Service Pack 2 Security Technologies * Network protection. These enhancements include turning on Windows Firewall in default installations of Service Pack 2, closing ports except when they are in use, improving the user interface for configuration, improving application compatibility when Windows Firewall is on, and enhancing enterprise administration of Windows Firewall through Group Policy. The attack surface of the Remote Procedure Call (RPC) service is reduced, and you can run RPC objects with reduced credentials. The DCOM infrastructure also has additional access control restrictions to reduce the risk of a successful network attack. * Memory protection. Some attacks by malicious software leverage software security vulnerabilities that allow too much data to be copied into areas of the computer’s memory. These vulnerabilities are typically referred to as buffer overruns. Although no single technique can completely eliminate this type of vulnerability, Microsoft is employing a number of security technologies to mitigate these attacks from different angles. First, core Windows components have been recompiled with the most recent version of our compiler technology, which provides added protection against buffer overruns. Additionally, Microsoft is working with microprocessor companies to help Windows support hardware-enforced data execution prevention (DEP) on microprocessors that contain the feature. Data execution prevention uses the CPU to mark all memory locations in an application as non-executable, unless the location explicitly contains executable code. This way, when an attacking worm or virus inserts program code into a portion of memory marked for data only, an application or Windows component will not run it. * E-mail handling. Security technologies help to stop viruses (such as SoBig.F) that spread through e-mail and instant messaging. These technologies include default settings that have enhanced security, improved attachment control using the Attachment Execution Service (AES) API. This results in security and reliability enhancements for communications applications such as Microsoft Outlook, Outlook Express and Windows Messenger. As a result, potentially unsafe attachments that are sent through e-mail and instant messages are isolated so that they are less likely to affect other parts of the system. * Browsing security. Security technologies that are delivered in Microsoft Internet Explorer provide improved protection against malicious content on the Web. One enhancement includes locking down the Local Machine zone to help prevent the running of malicious scripts and fortifying against harmful Web downloads. Additionally, better user controls and user interfaces are provided that help prevent malicious ActiveX® controls and spyware from running on customers’ systems without their knowledge and consent. * Computer maintenance. A very important part of any security plan is keeping computers updated with the latest software and security updates and understanding the role they play in protecting your computer. Ensuring that you have current knowledge of security attacks and trends is also important. For example, some software updates that mitigated known viruses and worms were available days or weeks before any significant attacks began. New technologies are being added to help the end user stay up-to-date. These technologies include Security Center and Windows Installer. And how the hell does answering spam have anyhting to do with SP2? It prevents you doing something stupid does it? The best defense against malware is: Education 3rd Party Apps SP2 does nothing at all to keep your PC clean - I remove malware form SP2 PCs all the time. |
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