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Thread ID: 81478 2007-07-28 22:46:00 OK...How About This Idea? (VM-Related) SurferJoe46 (51) Press F1
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573676 2007-07-28 22:46:00 Can one just make a whole tower with a fully functional mobo and hdds become a VM?

I mean, can one just remove the OPSYS from that and then command it from the primary OPSYS in a different computer? Kinda like a giant remote VM . . . . or a backup system .

Wouldn't this be a faster access for the OPSYS holding tower as a server if it didn't have to establish parity with the file holder?

I guess I am thinking of a daisy chain system here . . . could it work faster?

As I see it, the secondary unit would only need a DOS system at most to access the drives and the com/NIC .
SurferJoe46 (51)
573677 2007-07-28 22:49:00 Have you got a budget or are you trying to do it for free? winmacguy (3367)
573678 2007-07-28 22:56:00 Wellllllll..$$ isn't in gobs but I have a few more of these Dell Dimension 750s lying around idle and I am thinking all the time...(OK..maybe I should stop THAT)...but it is intriguing me at the moment until something shiny catches my eye. SurferJoe46 (51)
573679 2007-07-28 23:11:00 I may or may not have answered your question in another thread. winmacguy (3367)
573680 2007-07-28 23:14:00 Are you talking along the lines of Xen (www.xensource.com)? sal (67)
573681 2007-07-28 23:19:00 Impressive. winmacguy (3367)
573682 2007-07-28 23:30:00 Cluster computing www.scl.ameslab.gov Rob99 (151)
573683 2007-07-29 00:29:00 I'm not quite sure what you're asking for but you should take a look at Xen (http://www.xensource.com/). Xen itself runs directly on the bare metal. To run a system such as Windows which cannot be modified to run on normal hardware you'll need a recent processor with either Intel VT or AMD-V support (e.g. the Pentium D - enquire about this). While there are other options that can run without hardware support they will lose a significant amount of performance.

While DOS wont be supported as a host system by anything (DOS does absolutely nothing to help such a system) you can easily get a minimal Linux system running on top of Xen. You can then install something like XenMan (http://xenman.sourceforge.net/) to remotely control the VMs running on the server.
TGoddard (7263)
573684 2007-07-29 02:38:00 Can one just make a whole tower with a fully functional mobo and hdds become a VM?

I mean, can one just remove the OPSYS from that and then command it from the primary OPSYS in a different computer? Kinda like a giant remote VM . . . . or a backup system .

Wouldn't this be a faster access for the OPSYS holding tower as a server if it didn't have to establish parity with the file holder?

I guess I am thinking of a daisy chain system here . . . could it work faster?

As I see it, the secondary unit would only need a DOS system at most to access the drives and the com/NIC .

What you are suggesting here is not a virtual machine at all, but simply network storage .

A true VM is this: A host OS sets up an environment within itself that allows another OS (the guest OS) to run as if it was running on the hardware directly . The guest OS should run like normal, and run normal apps available for that OS .

Seems you have the curiosity, time(?) and equipment to experiment there Joe . I recommend you look at NetBSD (http://netbsd . org/) . It has a fully functioning native support for Xen on Intel CPUs . I have been running NetBSD for over a year now and I can help with any problems (I have not used Xen very much though) . NetBSD is one of the best (IMHO) OSs I have ever used .
vinref (6194)
573685 2007-07-29 05:19:00 What your suggesting sounds a lot like cluster or distributed computing, have a look at something like Beowulf. Pete O'Neil (6584)
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