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574833	2007-08-02 22:47:00	Trouble is Airflow is taken out of the equation in terms of it helping my CPU. The GeminII is so big that it blocks any airflow. I'm getting load temps of around 41 - 42 now (playing games, not under the 100% load tests fro TAT), and Idle temps of 32 - 35. But I'm still not happy as my room gets pretty cold. Once ambient temp hits 25.C which is what most reviews for heatsinks are done at i have a feeling it will get to 45 - 46.C. I'm going to lap my Zalman heatsink in the weekend and see if that helps any. Oh, and i only put enough Arctic Silver on to cover the head of the CPU. I thought you said you had 55c temps on load, not 41, 41 is okay	SolMiester (139)
574834	2007-08-03 00:05:00	Piss off wind bag, I am not incorrect, those temps for a 3rd party coller are too high...check the site! You are talking about Tcase not Tjunction. You do not seem to realise Tcase temperature is on average 11-15C lower than the Tjunction reading. Most motherboard software reads Tcase, most manufacturers rate in Tcase, TaT measures Tjunction. I will dumb it down for you, 55C Tjunction is 100% fine(his 55C in TAT is great) but 55C Tcase (about 66-70C ish Tjunction) is getting a little hot. You are making random statements about celsius without even specify what you are talking about. Show us the link you are referring to. Try not to be a tard about being wrong, show us the link.	Battleneter2 (9361)
574835	2007-08-03 01:16:00	I thought you said you had 55c temps on load, not 41, 41 is okay Yeah, when i run TAT on 100% i get 55.C+ temps (on both cores, but one core seems to run exactly 2-3 degree's higher than the other). But when im gaming i usually get around 41 - 42.C. And thats only because it's been getting bloody cold in my room the past couple of nights. Had my PC at a mates place the other night, his place is a bit warmer and it was getting up to 46.C when playing games. I'm really keen to overclock, but with temps of 55.C + when doing a stress test im not feeling very confident. Cheers guys for all your help.	Jams (1051)
574836	2007-08-03 02:42:00	Yeah, when i run TAT on 100% i get 55.C+ temps (on both cores, but one core seems to run exactly 2-3 degree's higher than the other). But when im gaming i usually get around 41 - 42.C. And thats only because it's been getting bloody cold in my room the past couple of nights. Had my PC at a mates place the other night, his place is a bit warmer and it was getting up to 46.C when playing games. I'm really keen to overclock, but with temps of 55.C + when doing a stress test im not feeling very confident. Cheers guys for all your help. Hi Jams, the key is to stop thinking 55C under TaT is hot because it is actually loop warm. You can technically go to 70C under TaT before you have to *start* worrying (although I suggest 65-70C tops to allow overhead). Damage will start to occur around 85C which is where Intel set thermal shutdown. You can usually overclock to 2.8 -3.0 gig on the stock Intel cooler, before you will need a good after market cooler. Direct Cut and Paste below (don't like Toms, but this is a decent C2D article) www.tomshardware.com "" The temp scale shown below illustrates the normal ~ 25c Delta between Idle and TAT @ 100% Load, and the typical ~ 15c Delta between Tcase and Tjunction on an example system overclocked with 1.4 Vcore. 50c Tcase and 65c Tjunction are safe and sustainable temperatures. -Tcase/Tjunction- --60--/--75--75-- Hot --55--/--70--70-- Warm --50--/--65--65-- N --45--/--60--60-- O --40--/--55--55-- R --35--/--50--50-- M --30--/--45--45-- A --25--/--40--40-- L --20--/--35--35-- Cool "" **TAT is also worst case, it seems to run the C2D processor around 10C higher than nearly any game or app I have tested. Normal operating temperatures will be lower, worth remembering. So 55C TAT is NORMAL, fire ahead and overclock with confidence and if you go much over 70C best get a new cooler :)	Battleneter2 (9361)
574837	2007-08-04 06:32:00	You are talking about Tcase not Tjunction. You do not seem to realise Tcase temperature is on average 11-15C lower than the Tjunction reading. Most motherboard software reads Tcase, most manufacturers rate in Tcase, TaT measures Tjunction. I will dumb it down for you, 55C Tjunction is 100% fine(his 55C in TAT is great) but 55C Tcase (about 66-70C ish Tjunction) is getting a little hot. You are making random statements about celsius without even specify what you are talking about. Show us the link you are referring to. Try not to be a tard about being wrong, show us the link. Show me where I ever mentioned Tcase or how he was giving his temps from!?, you are the one making statements. However most OC'ers at anandtech forum swear by TAT measurements, are you saying they are all wrong? Here is the Link (anandtech.com), Intel HSF under load 56c, 39c for his cooler on the hotter cpu so you would expect the same or even cooler on the E6600, which is why I suggested he may not have seated the cooler correct, or had used too much paste. Now get out of here and stop 2nd guessing what I say!	SolMiester (139)
574838	2007-08-05 03:29:00	Hey guys. Just finished lapping my Zalman heatsink. I attacked it with 200 Grit wet+dry sand paper, then 400, then 600, 800 ,1000, 1500 and lastly 2000, finished off with some metal polish and have ended up with a beautiful mirror finish. Im going to try and find some time to seat the heatsink tonight. Wish me luck!!	Jams (1051)
574839	2007-08-07 01:26:00	Show me where I ever mentioned Tcase or how he was giving his temps from!?, you are the one making statements. However most OC'ers at anandtech forum swear by TAT measurements, are you saying they are all wrong? Here is the Link (anandtech.com), Intel HSF under load 56c, 39c for his cooler on the hotter cpu so you would expect the same or even cooler on the E6600, which is why I suggested he may not have seated the cooler correct, or had used too much paste. Now get out of here and stop 2nd guessing what I say! anandtech.com Your article uses "NVIDIA nTune 5.05.22.00 (1/16/2007)" to read temps which is TCase It also said """but the chipset-specific features do not operate as they should. Idle temperatures in TAT were in line with measured idle temps with NVIDIA Monitor. The CPU stress testing with TAT pushing both cores showed TAT stress temps at ***80%**** CPU usage roughly"""" *** means important bit so you can see it more clearly :) You are trying comparing a Tcase temp to a Tjunction temp, actually worse a Tcase to inaccurate Tjunction temp by there own admission. I am a long term overclocker that gets frustrated with noobs blindly quoting/comparing temps without understanding them and misleading others. I even gave you a guide to understand and you are still arguing, nice one :thumbs:	Battleneter2 (9361)
574840	2007-08-07 02:00:00	Show me where I ever mentioned Tcase or how he was giving his temps from!?, you are the one making statements. However most OC'ers at anandtech forum swear by TAT measurements, are you saying they are all wrong? Here is the Link (anandtech.com), ! Lol sorry double post So we are 100% on the same page, those reading are using NVIDIA nTune 5.05.22.00 (1/16/2007) NOT TAT as you have mistakenly thought. If TaT was used and able to run at 100% usage(which they said it can't and hence not used), you would need to add 11-15C onto those temps to give you a correct TAT temperature. Hope this settles this finally, at least we can see where you went wrong now.	Battleneter2 (9361)
574841	2007-08-07 02:01:00	God Battleneter2!!! Stop arguing! :lol: Use PM if u have an issue with someone....:illogical	wratterus (105)
574842	2007-08-13 10:52:00	In light of Trev's latest post, complaining that people don't post back after help was received, i decided that i would give you all an update. Ended up lapping my heatsink. Was really happy to begin with as each core was operating at 25.C on idle. I was getting ready to overclock after finding these new temps. I installed a program called RM CPU Clock which tells you in depth information about your CPU. I then realised that one of my CPU cores was dropping from 2.4Ghz to 1.6Ghz and started to get a little curious. I initially thought my CPU was faulty, but it turns out that a default setting was turned on in my BIOS to drop the voltage/Ghz on my CPU when it idled. I decided to turn this function off as i wanted to have the full speed of my CPU operating at all times. Upon reboot i noticed my CPU to idle at much hotter temps, which is what i was expecting. Now my CPU idles at a nice warm temp of 51.C on each core. I'm going to try and go back to the shop i purchased it from tomorrow to see what my options are as this chip is going to kill itself come summer time. (it hits 63.C on 100% usage in a 15.C room) I punched in my serial/purchase code of my CPU into the intel website and it adivses me that it is unsafe for my exact model of CPU to reach 60.C whilst in operation. The drama continues!	Jams (1051)
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