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| Thread ID: 81889 | 2007-08-09 03:45:00 | And so it begins.... AGAIN!!! | winmacguy (3367) | Press F1 |
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| 578905 | 2007-08-11 06:14:00 | The word you were searching for is cynicism PJ, and under a capitalist society it's the rich wot gets the pleasure and the poor wot gets the blame. Under the alternative system for redistribution of wealth as offered by modern socialism of course, it's the rich wot gets the pleasure and the poor wot gets the blame. Under the only other viable alternative of a Mugabe styled dictatorship, the rich don't get no pleasure and the poor don't live long enough to worry about anything as frivolous as broadband. Cynical? Moi? Cheers Billy 8-{) :dogeye: Oh well put B. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 578906 | 2007-08-11 06:34:00 | I'm not really a huge Fan of Telecom'd BB service, mine is mediocre at best, and they could certainly do better, but I've got to say you guys live in a fantasy land. Just because you want fibre doesn't make it magically feasible to install it in your house - even if it's running past there's nothing to connect it to at the other end - it's installed for backhaul as someone allready pointed out. The Cable in the ground is far and away the biggest expense in building a network, which is the reason the old copper cables are being kept in use. Replacing them will take years and millions of dollars ( most probably billions ), and then suitable equipment nexts to be installed, equipment which is made obselete faster than you can install it. No ones going to install a multi billion dollar network all in one go, and then give you cheap BB off it. not ever. Neither are they going to upgrade every few years just so you can have up to date services, they need to recover the cost of installing the network and make a reasonable return for their shareholders - it's just the way it is. Unbundling will take forever to effect most people - the ISP's may put some equipment in the bigger exchanges to get at the most amount of customers for the least cost, but for the rest of us they are hardly going to build a whole new network for billions of dollars when they can just use telecom's and pay as they go. Perhaps Telecom should never have been sold, a government department might conceivably have built a better network to keep the voters happy, but it was, Deal with it. Companies are always going to attempt to make a good profit - it's how business works. And that's my rant for the day. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 578907 | 2007-08-11 08:58:00 | OK, So who would pay say $10 a month for either more speed or no data caps ? I read are 400,000 bb users in NZ that is $ 50 million dollars a year . Surely that will buy a bit of fibre to the streets and whilst I accept they can't do the whole country in one day, but surely they need to start . It seems the fibre cable will not be obsolete within a few decades so lets start ! The idea of my maths was just to show us all the sort of figures behind it . We cant keep asking for faster, bigger caps and cheaper ! Regards Digby |
Digby (677) | ||
| 578908 | 2007-08-11 09:00:00 | I know I would. The capacity of fibre is about 1000x-100,000x greater than copper the only limiting factor is the ability of the routers and network servers to switch the packets (and the cost to upgrade the servers) although this is where the ISP need to be heading if they are to keep up with the increased demand from users over the next 5-10 years. | winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 578909 | 2007-08-11 09:20:00 | For most ADSL users in NZ, we don't get anywhere near the capacity of existing lines because of back-office infrastructure issues. The current long bits of metal most of us use could be double or triple the speed. Mine's 3.5mbs max/128kb up, with a pathetic data cap - none of which has anything to do with not having fibre to my doorstep. As pointed out earlier in the thread, Telecom still controls the pace of competition in the exchanges, and will do for years. |
mmmork (6822) | ||
| 578910 | 2007-08-11 09:32:00 | Fortunately I don't think Telecom has any choice in the matter, as much as they wish they did. | winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 578911 | 2007-08-11 09:38:00 | They Do have a choice, that's my whole point :badpc: | mmmork (6822) | ||
| 578912 | 2007-08-11 10:12:00 | They Do have a choice, that's my whole point :badpc: I meant in terms of holding things back. David Cunniliffe is opening them up with a crow bar whether they like it or not. Crickey! now they are sending me SPAM as well This just through All your favourite things are coming together Yahoo!Xtra Bubble is your own special place on the net You can store and share all your favourite things with your friends and family on Yahoo!Xtra Bubble. And as a Telecom Xtra customer we wanted you to be among the first to hear about these exciting enhanced FREE online services. When Yahoo!Xtra Bubble launches on 20 August we’ll be delivering the future to your desktop, including great benefits like: * a personalised homepage * loads of online photo storage * an amazing 1GB of online storage * loads of mailbox storage, 10 sub accounts with their own email address and mailbox, and great spam management tools. Registration is essential You need to complete the simple Yahoo!Xtra Bubble registration process to enjoy these fantastic enhanced online services. You’ll be sent an email inviting you to do this very soon. There’ll be no change to your current Xtra email address or email aliases and we’ll take care of everything to ensure a seamless transition. Some things you should be aware of are: * all mail in your inbox will be available from your upgraded mailbox * your default spam settings will change so that any spam will automatically be moved to your spam folder and deleted after one month instead of 14 days * if your homepage is currently xtra.co.nz you’ll be automatically redirected to a new Telecom page where you can access Yahoo!Xtra Bubble and all your favourite Telecom Xtra services. To find out more about the upgrade of your mailbox, check out our frequently asked questions online at www.yourbubble.co.nz The Team @ Telecom Fancy a sneak preview? http://www.yourbubble.co.nz |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 578913 | 2007-08-11 10:34:00 | Whilst the BB service we receive currently is pathetic at best... however despite Telecom's profitablity (which is falling as the years tick by) it will most likely be 3 to 5 years before we have any sort of decent broadband network infrastructure. As previously stated it's not just a simple exercise of laying fibre... the switches etc need to be upgraded to handle the fibre connections as well not to mention the roadside cabinet hardware as well. The sad truth is that because Telecom have taken so long to move into the next stage the whole upgrade process had now been pushed back as well. Cheers |
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