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Thread ID: 81889 2007-08-09 03:45:00 And so it begins.... AGAIN!!! winmacguy (3367) Press F1
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578875 2007-08-09 03:45:00 One of the most significant moments in the long battle for deregulation of the telecommunications market in New Zealand played out this morning in the mundane surrounds of a central Auckland telephone exchange.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Lets hope this is just the start of better BB deals.:)
winmacguy (3367)
578876 2007-08-09 04:07:00 ADSL2 will do little for the average Kiwi DSL user that can't hit full speeds(with poor service) on DSL 1 now which is most people. Add in the fact that Telecom still have a Monopoly on most of NZ's international bandwidth through owning the largest stake in the Southern Cross Cable company, and you will have to excuse me for not getting overly excited.


Tell me the government is to invest in a full nationwide residential Fibre or Hybrid fiber/cable network and sell access back to all providers, now that will get me excited.

With DSL unbundled or not we are in for similar pricing and quaility of service.


The copper local loop need to be replaced ASAP, I realise it will take another 10 years for the media to pick up on this and for the general public to get behind it.
Battleneter2 (9361)
578877 2007-08-09 04:40:00 The small print in the unbundling drama says telecom must open up 15 exchanges per quarter. There are 400+ exchanges. Telecom still has the power, as ever it has, to control or stifle BB as it sees fit for the next few years. bugger all has changed depending on how lucky you are geographically

I assume they COULD open every exchange tomorrow, but why would they?
mmmork (6822)
578878 2007-08-09 04:41:00 I would be inclined to agree with you Battleneter2. winmacguy (3367)
578879 2007-08-09 04:45:00 What's annoying, is I can't see bugger all happening in the way of speed increases for rural customers in the near future. It's not so much the cost I'm worried about, it's the speed. If I could get 10mbit down and 2mbit up, and a decent (40gig+) cap, I wouldn't mind paying $80 or $100 a month for it, but it's non existant. And seeing as everyones sticking with copper rurally, even if it gets cheaper it's not gonna get a helluva lot faster, probably slower as more and more customers join. :( wratterus (105)
578880 2007-08-09 05:31:00 ADSL2 will do little for the average Kiwi DSL user that can't hit full speeds(with poor service) on DSL 1 now which is most people. Add in the fact that Telecom still have a Monopoly on most of NZ's international bandwidth through owning the largest stake in the Southern Cross Cable company, and you will have to excuse me for not getting overly excited.


Tell me the government is to invest in a full nationwide residential Fibre or Hybrid fiber/cable network and sell access back to all providers, now that will get me excited.

With DSL unbundled or not we are in for similar pricing and quaility of service.


The copper local loop need to be replaced ASAP, I realise it will take another 10 years for the media to pick up on this and for the general public to get behind it.

The next time im in town I will take photographs of the Telecom "grafitti" marking fibre locations, ducts and cable numbers. It's absolutely everywhere. I'm a sneaky ****e so I quite often ask telecom technicians what they're doing under the ground...
It's a good way of getting information you don't hear in the media. :P
jermsie (6820)
578881 2007-08-09 05:38:00 I have seen a lot of that around our way where the footpaths are about to be dug up and re concreted. winmacguy (3367)
578882 2007-08-09 09:02:00 What's annoying, is I can't see bugger all happening in the way of speed increases for rural customers in the near future. It's not so much the cost I'm worried about, it's the speed. If I could get 10mbit

Nope. Nor even rubbish broadband for those stuck on dialup.
Nor can I see a mad rush of other ISPs rolling out new equipment.
pctek (84)
578883 2007-08-09 10:23:00 Besides looking at the speed we have at the moment, they should also look at ways to remove caps. I rarely can find a piece of news saying that ISPs are trying their best to get rid of caps. No matter how fast your net can go, you will get capped unless you are on the existing Go Large plan. msnforum (11610)
578884 2007-08-09 10:36:00 Broadband 3 on Ihug is getting there...
Next month it will be upped to 2GB a day max, so that's about 60GB a month for $50 with ihug phone, $60 without (what we pay). Less than what most aussie neighbours pay! My brother had to downgrade to an ADSL exchange from ADSL2+ and pays $90 for 30gb, 1.5Mbps(or 2mbit) from Internode.
In time the caps will change... It just takes ages for these changes to happen.
jermsie (6820)
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