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Thread ID: 82057 2007-08-14 22:17:00 10,000 rpm drives - anybody got one? Opinions? Deane F (8204) Press F1
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581101 2007-08-15 04:08:00 Seeing as Western Digital offers a 5yr warranty on Raptors it would suggest they are no more likely to fail then any other drive. Raptors are built around high end enterprise tech and thus are less likely to fail than other desktop drives ;)

RAID 1 is mirroring and offers a very very small performance increase and nowhere near the level a Raptor offers. A Raptor would offer atleast equivalent performance to 2 x 7200rpm drives in RAID 0 without the increased risk.

Yes, i do agree with you. But have had more trouble with people using 10,000rpm hdd's than the standard 7200rpm ae.

personally haven't used RAID 1, but was told that it would be more cost/performance etc effective than the raptors. (goes and shoots fellow student for giving faulty info) :p
Bozo (8540)
581102 2007-08-15 04:29:00 Yes, i do agree with you. But have had more trouble with people using 10,000rpm hdd's than the standard 7200rpm ae.
Out of interest how much experience have you had with Raptors?

I'm slightly guilty of assuming Deane F was only talking about Raptors, but SCSI and SAS are very expensive and not ideally suited to the desktop PC.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
581103 2007-08-15 05:39:00 I was definitely talking Serial ATA - not SCSI. And yes, the Western Digital Raptor is the one I'm looking at - though not the one with the little clear window. I mean, what's the point? Only the little men inside the box will be able to watch it. Deane F (8204)
581104 2007-08-15 06:15:00 curious as to how much the new lash hard drives will be, anyone know?

Don't quote me on this ( :D ) but a month or so ago I saw in the US you could have one somewhere around 10-20gig for around $5,000US
Shortcircuit (1666)
581105 2007-08-15 06:42:00 Wow the Western Digital Raptor drives seem expensive. Around 350+ for 150Gb. Maybe pay just a tiny bit more for a SATA Seagate 750Gb. You gould get 2 decent seagates for the price of a Raptor, I personally doubt they are that great, i have never had a lot of faith in WD drives.

I have always had Maxtor then Seagate drives, they have done me well. Currently I have 7 of them in this box plus 5 in my daughters PC.
Bantu (52)
581106 2007-08-15 07:03:00 I have 3 10,000RPM SCSI drives running in a RAID 5 config.

Only things I have spotted are they run VERY hot are rather loud and pull a heafty load from the 12V rail on cold start.

Be sure you have good ventilation and a strong 12V rail on your PSU.

As for speed cannot comment as they run ext3 file system.
ughnz (8297)
581107 2007-08-15 08:26:00 Out of interest how much experience have you had with Raptors?

Personally i don't own one.
Have had several people complain to me about them though.
And have had some work experience with a Blade Server, which had Raptors and the guy was saying that they aren't as reliable as the 7200rpm.

Also am a member to another forum where this issues does come up.
Mind you, there are plenty of people having trouble with 7200rpms anyway so what the heck? they have moving parts - they will wear out!

Can't wait for the flash drives to be at a half reasonable price!
Bozo (8540)
581108 2007-08-15 08:59:00 I thought flash memory was pretty volatile and stands up to only so many writes before it's buggered (600 to 1000 writes from memory). If anybody has information to the contrary (MTBF), I'd be interested to hear it. Deane F (8204)
581109 2007-08-15 10:06:00 I thought flash memory was pretty volatile and stands up to only so many writes before it's buggered (600 to 1000 writes from memory). If anybody has information to the contrary (MTBF), I'd be interested to hear it.

No, just a few more....typically flash transistors become worn out anywhere between 10,000 and a few million write cycles. Many flash products incorporate wear-leveling algorithms, which ensure all cells are worn evenly to maximize the lifespan of the product, however this can be somewhat erratic.....

However, will not more memory load the entire game to memory!
SolMiester (139)
581110 2007-08-15 10:06:00 Much longer than normal drives simply because of the fact that they have no moving parts to wear out and generate no or very very little heat.

Flash HDD's FTW over normal ones in terms of reliability, product life and power consumption.
beeswax34 (63)
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