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| 582053 | 2007-08-17 21:42:00 | Schools have FAST ENOUGH access. Seriously, what do schools need FASTER internet for? Aside from the "*sigh*...this is taking a while to load" factor, they still get the job done and do what they're made to do.You don't necessarily need the fastest computers or internet access in the world, but when I was at school the internet was slow and the computers were even worse. If the computers aren't capable of running a recent version of Windows or Mac OS X, and aren't able to run a recent version of Office/iWork/other educational software smoothly, then that would negatively impact your education. It sound's like you have some very lucky students myke. |
maccrazy (6741) | ||
| 582054 | 2007-08-17 22:24:00 | Eventually .. primary and secondary schools should be able to join the KAREN (education and research) network.... assuming they are near a point of presence.. Fast Internet. This is from the www.karen.net.nz site. Read it and weep! The high performance of the Advanced Network is achieved through the following design elements: 10 gigabit backbone network capacity connecting major cities throughout New Zealand. 1 gigabit access for members as the primary offering, with 100 megabit and 10 gigabit access options |
berryb (99) | ||
| 582055 | 2007-08-17 22:37:00 | You don't necessarily need the fastest computers or internet access in the world, but when I was at school the internet was slow and the computers were even worse. If the computers aren't capable of running a recent version of Windows or Mac OS X, and aren't able to run a recent version of Office/iWork/other educational software smoothly, then that would negatively impact your education. It sound's like you have some very lucky students myke. Thanks. They are fortunate. Schools do not get specifically funded for IT equipment. Money or resources are sourced through fund raising events, Community Trust and Telecom's connection points. Maybe when the Telecom funny money runs out schools will just wind back the clock and go back to chalk, outdated books and typewriters. Schools probably hang on to hardware way too long. Trying squeeze another year out of a five, six or even old machine. |
myke (7862) | ||
| 582056 | 2007-08-17 22:46:00 | Far out, what a moaning bunch of pratts. I think it's great that schools can have a fast connection, it proves to the rest of us that it can be done, we just have to wait. As for the Apple thing, I agree with Metla. |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 582057 | 2007-08-17 23:21:00 | ..I would hope and expect our schools to have quality internet feeds... | Metla (12) | ||
| 582058 | 2007-08-17 23:25:00 | Far out, what a moaning bunch of pratts . Agreed . I also don't think superfast speeds somehow equal better learning . In fact the dependance on teaching young kids by having them watch animated 'learning' programs is disturbing . However, we'd all like faster speeds than we get just for the sake of convenience . Here ( . tv3 . co . nz/VideoBrowseAll/CampbellLiveVideo/tabid/367/articleID/32656/Default . aspx" target="_blank">www . tv3 . co . nz) is the campbell Live item . Basically they got an MED grant ($1mill), pooled funding from many schools, and bought a big fat pipe to Wellington . Nothing wrong with macs in schools, the robustness of that pretty design will be interesting to see . |
mmmork (6822) | ||
| 582059 | 2007-08-17 23:37:00 | The fact that you work for a school, even as an IT person should atleast mean that you have some proper grammar skills and recognize the correct use of pronouns . Kids can have all the shiny, overpriced Macs and super-fast internet that hey want but if all they can say is "Oh aye, nu Macs, FanC thOs, BetA thN teh Dells lulwhut" (it does mean something), all those fancy toys are absolutely useless . Ok, I reread several posts and understand why the grammar police may be getting upset . Whatever . . . follow the thread, get the gist even if it is a bit retarded . Didn't write a draft, just spat out some words . Almost lazy conversation if you will . Anyway . . . Apple did have a relatively well priced multimedia desktop called the eMac . Schools that have heavily brought into Apple's OS dependent hardware platform may find that it is far more expensive to deploy a new managed Windows network . In the case of the school, where I spend at least nine hours a day . . . presumably working - the infrastructure for a managed OS X network is already there . Changing right now makes no financial sense . Telecom does not provide Dells in their points scheme (HP, Acer or Apple) . You might be making some assumptions on what IT tools are used for in schools . Here follows a list of some of the stuff that goes on at the Intermediate School I work at . Flash animation, editing Actionscipt templates to create interactive games, video editing, creating brochures, researching, word processing and general desktop publishing, 3D modeling/animation with Bryce (free version) or Google Sketch up, visual programming with Scratch from MIT, Editing images in a Photoshop style . . . manual techniques in an pre-Adobe version of Fireworks . Using an online student learning environment to enable students to seamless achieve some of their digital objectives . . . both at home and school . |
myke (7862) | ||
| 582060 | 2007-08-17 23:52:00 | Agreed . I also don't think superfast speeds somehow equal better learning . In fact the dependance on teaching young kids by having them watch animated 'learning' programs is disturbing . However, we'd all like faster speeds than we get just for the sake of convenience . Here ( . tv3 . co . nz/VideoBrowseAll/CampbellLiveVideo/tabid/367/articleID/32656/Default . aspx" target="_blank">www . tv3 . co . nz) is the campbell Live item . Basically they got an MED grant ($1mill), pooled funding from many schools, and bought a big fat pipe to Wellington . Nothing wrong with macs in schools, the robustness of that pretty design will be interesting to see . . . . super-fast speed does = opportunity though . Opportunity for what depends on the school . Not all schools are the same . Keep in mind that computer based activity is just one learning tool available to teachers . Yep, I hope the iMacs handle 11 to 12 year olds of various temperaments . |
myke (7862) | ||
| 582061 | 2007-08-18 00:47:00 | Ok, after reading through most of this... Super fast speed = opportunity....HOW? That's like saying I don't have the opportunity to download a full length movie because I can't do it in 55 seconds. From my understanding, and yes I am at school, the most computers are used for is research and/or typing up things and they do the job just fine. Probably just over half of it is offline too. (powerpoints, word docs etc) I'm not against schools getting faster internet, just saying they don't need it. Wasn't there a time many years ago when the schools didn't have computers? Did those people without access to a computer at school turn out to be cabbages? Sure, educational standards might have improved since computers, but with a few exceptions, what can be done (par time frame) on their super fast speed, PROBABLY could've been done before. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 582062 | 2007-08-18 01:20:00 | The college I went to had a room full of C64's.:rolleyes: | Metla (12) | ||
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