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| 582163 | 2007-08-22 07:03:00 | Real work like creating spreadsheets and doing office work is beneath such god-almighty computers. Macs do Office too www.youtube.com |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 582164 | 2007-08-22 07:56:00 | Buying PCs we can put more high power PC's on desks for kids to use than we can with Macs, and a big plus is that when we finally turn them loose on the unsuspecting job market, they don't have to be retrained to use a proper computer!When it comes to general use, Windows and Mac OS X are similar enough. 15 minutes to play around with either system is enough to cover the basics (where applications are, how the home directory is structured, how to find the preferences etc). I grew up with Macs at home, but have never had any trouble using Windows (even as a 10 year old it isn't hard), just takes a few seconds longer to find things for the first time (and realise the help files aren't actually that helpful ;)). Perhaps someone who is very technology illiterate may find it easier to learn on the platform they are most likely to use, but what happens if they end up having to use a Mac? It might potentially be even harder for them given they haven't gained experience in multiple operating systems, only Windows. Or what say they learned how to use Windows 98 at school and then have to use Vista when they get a job? If they find it that hard to transfer between Windows and Mac OS X, they will probably find operating system upgrades just as hard. :2cents: |
maccrazy (6741) | ||
| 582165 | 2007-08-22 08:18:00 | I grew up with Macs at home, but have never had any trouble using Windows (even as a 10 year old it isn't hard), just takes a few seconds longer to find things for the first time (and realise the help files aren't actually that helpful ;)). Or what say they learned how to use Windows 98 at school and then have to use Vista when they get a job? If they find it that hard to transfer between Windows and Mac OS X, they will probably find operating system upgrades just as hard. :2cents: Teaching a 10 year old to use a new system is probably much easier than getting an adult since adults tend to clam up more around new technology where as it is all new and exciting to a 10 year old. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 582166 | 2007-08-22 09:49:00 | I know they do Office, my problem is that Mac (and the ad's don't help) always makes it look like what we do on PC's is boring and not fun at all. We are so beneath you guys, aren't we??? | beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 582167 | 2007-08-22 09:56:00 | I know they do Office, my problem is that Mac (and the ad's don't help) always makes it look like what we do on PC's is boring and not fun at all. We are so beneath you guys, aren't we??? Did you want me to say NO?:p The traditionally accepted PC uses of spread sheets and word docs are fairly mundane when compared to ripping CDs, managing your photos and making a home movie or two right out of the box on a Mac, I would have thought, even though many of us know that PCs and Macs can do both quite well- it just comes down to being the first to getting the message across in a successful marketing campaign where the product works as advertised. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 582168 | 2007-08-22 10:09:00 | I know they do Office, my problem is that Mac (and the ad's don't help) always makes it look like what we do on PC's is boring and not fun at all. HP actually does a similar one where "the PC is personal again" which is actually quite a cool ad but which one has got more people talking about it on the web, HP or Apple? ;) |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 582169 | 2007-08-22 10:56:00 | Did you want me to say NO?:p The traditionally accepted PC uses of spread sheets and word docs are fairly mundane when compared to ripping CDs, managing your photos and making a home movie or two right out of the box on a Mac, I would have thought, even though many of us know that PCs and Macs can do both quite well- it just comes down to being the first to getting the message across in a successful marketing campaign where the product works as advertised. Remind me again how to do my home business accounting using iMovie. |
beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 582170 | 2007-08-22 11:21:00 | Remind me again how to do my home business accounting using iMovie. You could use Appleworks although it has just been discontinued in favour of iWork 08. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 582171 | 2007-08-22 11:23:00 | All a stinking load of dribble. The PC still is far more capable then the Mac, The PC still gets you more power for your dollar. The only reason for choosing a Mac is personal freakin preference based on a bunch of fluffy ducks. Where the wank-factor doesn't rate neither does the Mac. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 582172 | 2007-08-22 12:40:00 | Hi there, my replies are in red. Just a thought.........since when did Telecom ever buy computers for any school? I thought the Loyalty Scheme paid money into schools from signed-up Telecom users as a percentage of their phone bill (tolls?). I described the Telecom scheme as a loyalty scheme in my first post. The scheme is managed by another company. However the school does not receive money. The school gets points, I think that 5 points is worth a dollar. Still, Telecom had made a choice to create a funding opportunity for telecommunications services, computer and AV equipment. Telecom provides a catalogue of products from which schools base their orders. What you then spend the Loyalty Scheme money on is up to the school, and in the case of the college I am associated with we buy as few Macs as we possibly can, just enough to keep happy the people in the art/graphics department (who can't handle a mouse with more than one button) and the rest of the school has PC's. Clearly it up to each school what they choose to purchase with points via the scheme. I know it is a bit smarmy to state this... but a Mac is a PC, as is a box running a Linux desktop O/S. The mighty mouse can be configured to left and right click... get over it. Why? Simple. Bang for buck. Buying PCs we can put more high power PC's on desks for kids to use than we can with Macs, and a big plus is that when we finally turn them loose on the unsuspecting job market, they don't have to be retrained to use a proper computer! Training students to lack transferable skills and the ability to problem solve will clearly benefit students. There are no jobs that involve using a non-Microsoft GUI, right? Sure Microsoft has 95% Market share, however by the time most student hit the workforce... the O/S world may be a very different place. It is a triumph of economics and practicality over gloss, glitz and "style". What really matters is what is displayed on the screen, not how it gets there or how stylish the computer lab looks. O/S X sits on top of UNIX (hardly gloss and glitz), sure Tiger isn't and I'm guessing Leopard will not be perfect... neither is any flavour of Windows or Linux. Apple uses style to differentiate it's products. Sometimes the price is incredibly inflated... like the iPod. However the concept of the iMac is a practical concept in that it has a small thumbprint less cable clutter and is easy to redeploy. The downside is that if anything goes wrong, it might not be cheap to fix. |
myke (7862) | ||
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