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Thread ID: 141454	2015-12-23 03:01:00	Kim Dotcom loses extradition case	Renegade (16270)	PC World Chat

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1413319	2015-12-26 20:36:00	LOL. It might be, miracles do happen. No, they don't. Ask dotcom, he didn't get his. I don't much care about dotcom and he broke the law and it's too well known for him to get away with it completely. In truth they are only going after the likes of kim dotcom and the pirate bay guys etc because they can't easily do anything about the huge number of average people who routinely use these sites to download and share stuff illegally. The only options they have are prosecute everyone which is almost impossible, or try to cut them off at the source. They are having to invent laws as they go to do it though, prosecuting people for "facilitating" piracy when they can't prove they are doing it themselves. This is just the latest round in a very long fight, when manufacturers made double cassette decks that could dub from tape to tape the music industry cried foul and tried to have them banned. The courts ruled that just because they could be used for illegal purposes didn't make them inherently illegal as long as there was also a legitimate use for them. If we'd had this same law about facilitating piracy then that may have ended differently. Look at the pirate bay, the biggest, most well known site around that's had a huge bullseye on it's back for years and is still going. By the time they finally manage to shut it down someone will have found another way to do the same thing. The only reason they are able to stop these guys at all is because it's blatantly obvious to everyone that piracy is the main purpose of the sites and any legitimate use is incidental. I'm not siding with the pirates, but I do think they are being made the scapegoats for a very widespread problem purely because they are the only viable targets.	dugimodo (138)
1413320	2015-12-26 21:35:00	when manufacturers made double cassette decks that could dub from tape to tape the music industry cried foul and tried to have them banned That's the absolutely best comparison I've heared to date. I do think they are being made the scapegoats for a very widespread problem purely because they are the only viable targets. Man, I so agree.	Greg (193)
1413321	2015-12-26 21:52:00	That's the absolutely best comparison I've heared to date. Man, I so agree. And FM radio they squealed people would record it to tape.	prefect (6291)
1413322	2015-12-26 23:21:00	What's stupid about that is bought tapes sounded horrible and copying them only made it worse. You could always record from Vinyl to tape though and with a decent tape deck and a quality tape got better results than buying it (well except the crackle and pop noise) I used to tape record all my records to play in the car and that was technically illegal at the time, but who was going to buy everything twice. Tape decks were going to destroy the music industry and had to be banned - never happened CD burners were going to destroy the music industry, DRM was invented to stop this - never happened Digital downloads were going to destroy the music industry - instead they became the distribution method of choice. To be fair profits from album sales are greatly reduced but it's difficult to say exactly what the cause is and the music industry is doing fine. (eg is it downloads or because people only buy songs they like and not whole albums or both or something else) Now it's Movies Studios and TV companies having their turn.	dugimodo (138)
1413323	2015-12-27 00:44:00	and vinyl is proving itself yet again! :) 6891	bevy121 (117)
1413324	2015-12-27 03:14:00	and vinyl is proving itself yet again! :) 6891 Noticed that when I was in the Warehouse yesterday. They had quite a few.	paulw (1826)
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