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Thread ID: 141412 2015-12-14 04:01:00 About new Dick Smith AA batteries leaking.................... Billy T (70) PC World Chat
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1412834 2015-12-15 07:31:00 Me?

NiCd → NiMH→ Dick Smith → Varta

Like BillyT I use fresh AAs in the field (Roland R-05)

and end up with a lot of partly used batteries. I use them in a battery shaver but still have too many

One of the NiCd chargers I used a dozen years ago had a meter to indicate state of charge. I threw out everything except the meter, connected it to an AA battery holder, soldered a few resistors in series and parallel and ended up with a very useful battery tester for both AA and AAA
BBCmicro (15761)
1412835 2015-12-15 07:51:00 Regarding the comments on NiMH self discharging, that's why we all suggest eneloop low self discharge cells.....
The new breed of NiMH has a slightly lower AH rating but can hold 80-85% charge after a year in storage.

They are vastly superior to standard NiMH in almost every application. Pays to check every few years, things change.
dugimodo (138)
1412836 2015-12-15 09:25:00 Re China (Chinese etc)
Imho they make what they are asked to make.
They make top quality stuff for top brands and they make el cheapo no name stuff.

+1

If you (importers) only willing to pay say, $0.05 for a "AA" size battery, simply because you want to make a huge profit, and in the end, who are the losers?

We can't really blame the Chinese. If you are willing to pay for quality products, they will make it for you. Simple as that.
bk T (215)
1412837 2015-12-15 10:08:00 If you go through that many I'd be looking at 3 x 12V gel cells personally. A/ (michaelbluejay.com)

The 36 volt pack is used solely to isolate one brand of metal detector from all mains power and grounding. If the machine doesn't trip when operating on batteries I go looking for power quality issues, but if it does trip, I go back on mains supply and look for either an environmental problem (more common) or an electronic fault (very rare).

I do have gel cells (SLA) for instruments that require them, but everything else uses either AA cells or AAA, and one instrument requires two 9 volt PP/6F22 carbon-zinc, or Alkaline 6LR61/6AM6/6L10 etc, and my Fluke clamp-meter requires those 9 volt batteries as well. I also have a external 24 volt AA battery pack for my cable tracer to extend its range out to 100 metres or more.

I have more instruments than you can shake a stick at, so I am reliant on good quality batteries that don't spontaneously expire between uses. My latest contract will require yet another acquisition, this time a professional laser measuring tool to produce very accurate location data in a new scientific research orientated building.

Yet more batteries to buy.....sigh...

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1412838 2015-12-15 16:35:00 The Chinese have been commissioned to build the UK's next Nuclear Power Station.
Having experienced for many years their extremely poor quality products and
workmanship, I hope they don't power it up during my lifetime.
Their expertise with fireworks is a bit frightening
blanco (11336)
1412839 2015-12-15 18:31:00 I've become so disappointed with batteries.

The bulk packs start to leak and rot, and the rechargables are a mixed bag.

I've got 2 different groups of Energiser NiMH rechargables. One group has a dark grey plastic surrounding the + electrode. These ones hold their charge well. The other group have a light grey ring around the + electrode, and they hold so little charge they're not worth charging. They're usually flat again by the time I get to using them.

Batteries have been a rip off for years. I recall an early Eveready NiCd D cell that was practically hollow. Just holding it in your hand you could tell there was only about 1/5th of it actually containing anything (all the mass at one end) - the rest of it was hollow, yet we're suckered into paying for this rubbish. D cell in size, D cell in price, but AA worth of contents.

Will look to get some Enermax based on the comments above (thanks guys).
Paul.Cov (425)
1412840 2015-12-15 19:15:00 The Chinese have been commissioned to build the UK's next Nuclear Power Station.
Having experienced for many years their extremely poor quality products and
workmanship, I hope they don't power it up during my lifetime.
Their expertise with fireworks is a bit frightening

Since you have such nasty experiences in Chinese products, steer away from them; but can you afford to buy quality products? They may not be available in NZ though as our importers/wholesalers/retailers all want to make a huge profit markups.

They do have quality products, just that we can't afford it.

What can you expect from a 5 cents product? :D

Who is to be blamed?
bk T (215)
1412841 2015-12-15 19:39:00 Regarding the comments on NiMH self discharging, that's why we all suggest eneloop low self discharge cells.....
The new breed of NiMH has a slightly lower AH rating but can hold 80-85% charge after a year in storage.

They are vastly superior to standard NiMH in almost every application. Pays to check every few years, things change.

I know, but not sure BillyT wants to spend that kind of money on 24 of them at once! $15 a pair from Countdown is $180 for 24. Does he use the power supply enough to warrant spending that money? Are the batteries going to expire before they get much use?


Yes thats why after ten years of using re-chargables I gave up on them.

You charge a set of 4 and put it in your drawer ready for time you need it, and then when you put it in your device, you find they have gone flat.

My life is to short to worry about them anymore.

It doesn't worry me anyway, I use mine pretty much as soon as I charge them, so I don't need to buy the expensive ones either.
Agent_24 (57)
1412842 2015-12-15 20:37:00 Eneloop...eneloop...eneloop. Eneloop! :p wratterus (105)
1412843 2015-12-15 21:10:00 Eneloop...eneloop...eneloop. Eneloop! :p

eneloop is now just..another...brand . :)
Just look at the crappy overnight charger that sometimes gets bundled with them, the worst way to charge
nimh's is via overnight trickle chargers .

They are nothing like the original, they arnt even Sanyo any more, they are now Panasonic . Why not just buy Panasonic instead.
Plus, eneloop would be the most widely faked AA brand out there. You really dont know what youre really getting, retailers dont care.

Plenty of quality Low Self Discharge AA's to choose from. Panasonic, Varta, Cameleon, even Jaycar used to sell some top rated rebranded NiMah's

I have heaps of these LSD/Ready2use AA's, I hardly use them now, only in my camera & thats almost never used.
Quality Varta AA alkaline are dirt cheap for bulk packs at Bunnings .
1101 (13337)
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