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| 588057 | 2007-09-06 07:40:00 | This is extreme, but a full format could be a possibility. Too right this is extreme and will not fix the problem. The Nuke Method is not needed to solve a problem like this. Try downloading O&O Defragger (www.softforall.com) and run that through your OS hard drive. This defragger is not just an add-on to the windows defragger (like most others are) this is seperate and does a much better job. Free up at least 20% on your OS drive and give it a good defrag. While this may not be the problem - at the very least it will help optimize your computer. :p |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 588058 | 2007-09-06 07:50:00 | Too right this is extreme and will not fix the problem. The Nuke Method is not needed to solve a problem like this. I have fixed MANY things that have been unfixable by reinstalling the drivers and getting rid of any other crap in Windows. I don't consider it to be extreme personally, I format every few months. But to someone who is not like me it is extreme. You cannot say it will not fix the issue, do you know where the issue is? :rolleyes: it could be software related or it could be hardware, both are to be ruled out. |
The_End_Of_Reality (334) | ||
| 588059 | 2007-09-06 08:15:00 | I have fixed MANY things that have been unfixable by reinstalling the drivers and getting rid of any other crap in Windows. I don't consider it to be extreme personally, I format every few months. But to someone who is not like me it is extreme. You cannot say it will not fix the issue, do you know where the issue is? :rolleyes: it could be software related or it could be hardware, both are to be ruled out. I do not consider formatting extreme, but i do consider it to be the cheats (and noobs) way out of solving a problem - mainly because it doesn't solve the problem. It just gives you a new software platform for you to go and screw up again. If you have a problem you need to find the root cause and fix that, and make sure you don't do it again. Formatting and re-installing will often make the problem go away, only until you make the same mistake that caused it to fail last time, because you don't know what you did that caused the problem the first time. I will agree that for some problems a format and re-install is easier and faster but doesn't actually fix the problem. I pretty much can say that while the actual re-installation of windows will not fix the problem - the whole destroy EVERYTHING and start again possible will. Format.....pfft! for noobs who can't be bothered caring for their computers properly and fixing the root cause of problems. (i think i may have trodden on a few toes with this post :stare: ) |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 588060 | 2007-09-06 08:41:00 | I do not consider formatting extreme, but i do consider it to be the cheats (and noobs) way out of solving a problem - mainly because it doesn't solve the problem. How is it a noob solution? Most noobs couldn't reinstall Windows if their life depended on it let alone source drivers and software. I've been in few situation where its simply quicker to do a reformat, especially if its an installation thats getting long in the tooth. In many cases not just computing its often easy to start fresh and learn from your mistakes, nothing about being a cheat or noob. :) |
Pete O'Neil (6584) | ||
| 588061 | 2007-09-06 09:09:00 | Ok, fair enough. This is a fairly debatable subject and our opinions will probably always differ! Will most noobs wouldn't be able to re-install windows, i wasn't refering to them in the first place, as a true noob probably wouldn't even notice that their computer was running super slow. Formatting i agree can be easier and quicker than fixing the problem. But as for learning from your mistakes, formatting doesn't do that. All you know, is that you screwed up somewhere, and now you have a clean system, you still don't know why or how you screwed up. |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 588062 | 2007-09-07 01:05:00 | So what happens if you get a virus which damages some system files? the virus was put on by someone other than you who used your PC only once, you cannot boot into Windows, would you really try to salvage that instal or slave the HDD and get all important data off and format? I say format faster and easier. and I fail to see how that is a noobs option out. :illogical | The_End_Of_Reality (334) | ||
| 588063 | 2007-09-07 01:19:00 | Ok, fair enough. This is a fairly debatable subject and our opinions will probably always differ! Will most noobs wouldn't be able to re-install windows, i wasn't refering to them in the first place Um yes you were, perhaps you should consider reading your original post before you post more crap. but i do consider it to be the cheats (and noobs) way out of solving a problem Sounds like you were refering to them to me ;) |
Pete O'Neil (6584) | ||
| 588064 | 2007-09-07 01:29:00 | Will most noobs wouldn't be able to re-install windows, i wasn't refering to them in the first place, as a true noob probably wouldn't even notice that their computer was running super slow. ok i have a typo there, it should read WHILE not WILL. However, i still hold my original opinion: - Formatting is the quick and easy way out of not solving the problem - but makes it go away - Problems solved by formatting will come back because you don't know what caused them so you won't know to not do them again. - In some cases formatting is the faster and easier way out - (cheats way out) I would suspect that we will always disagree on this but thats life! Enjoy :p |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 588065 | 2007-09-07 01:41:00 | So what happens if you get a virus which damages some system files? the virus was put on by someone other than you who used your PC only once, you cannot boot into Windows, would you really try to salvage that instal or slave the HDD and get all important data off and format? I say format faster and easier. and I fail to see how that is a noobs option out. :illogical sorry bowt the double post here guys :( I agree that formatting and re-installation of a clean set of software does have its place, and depending on the severity of the problem, may be the best way out. With the scenario above i would say that your suggestion is most likely the best - depending on how many system files the virus had corrupted and the extent of its other damage. But I will only format if I have nothing else that I can do. Others may/will format for errors that i would fix in other ways but wtf? its ur computer not mine at the end of the day! :p |
Bozo (8540) | ||
| 588066 | 2007-09-07 02:08:00 | Wow this topic really picked up since last i was here . Thanks for all the input everybody . Regarding the drivers . My HP update says all drivers are up to date, but this site: . com/?PHPSESSID=f97fa7ed55ecd02b814744aa284f4609" target="_blank">driveragent . com says 50% of my drivers are not up to date!? But you have to pay like 30$ to get access to all the downloads, so screw that . Any suggestions welcome here . Regarding PSU: I'm not really an advanced user so i don't know what info is needed here but i got this off my psu lable inside my cpu: Dynex Model: DX-PS 500W Ac Input: 115/230V - 60/50Hz, 7/4A as well as: Output Watts 500W, +5V, +3 . 3V: 180W checking out my innards i also made sure every card was fixed properly in place, no dust, fans work, basically everything looked good (to me at least) Also according to two sources my cpu is not overheating, and is working at a healthy ~48C . (Other devices are also fine) I will try running O&O Defragger and see what comes up (thanks DemonHunter) . In the meantime, I am running two online virus scans (one after the other of coarse and from different sites) because all this talk about viruses is making me nervous . I generally keep my ZoneAlarm up to date, but who knows . . . I will let you guys know if anything comes up . And finally regarding Reformatting . I generally don't like resorting to this, but mostly because i always find it a hassle . I have to back up around 80 G of crap on a 80 G storage device . do the reformat, reinstall everything . Sigh . . . I've only done it once this year . And yea, I'm also not sure if it will fix the problem . This "solution" is becoming more appealing, though, as i have had this problem for a week, and no forums have a fix yet . What i find most curious of all is how randomly the problem will appear/disappear . This happened three times now . Yesterday, for example, it just went away without me rebooting (in fact it just spontaneously went away as i was typing on another solution forum) . Today when i booted up after waking up, it was there again . I was able to get screens of my task manager when I'm typing to show what it looks like . I don't know how to post them here, but you can check them out in his site: . karlsforums . com/forums/viewthread . php?tid=32250&page=2" target="_blank">www . karlsforums . com |
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