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588238	2007-09-05 06:17:00	Hi I have been using Microsoft Media Player 9 for some time and the MP3s that I have could play well. I have upgraded to Media Player 11 and now every time I go to play an MP3, it throws up an error and shuts down. Can anybody help me? Regards John	jmcnicol (8199)
588239	2007-09-05 06:20:00	It would help if you told us exactly what the error was :rolleyes:.	Erayd (23)
588240	2007-09-05 06:27:00	Bletch Thank you It's the classic "This Application has had an unknown problem and will have to close. We apologize for the inconvenience" Thanks John	jmcnicol (8199)
588241	2007-09-05 09:32:00	Tried re-installing it? Uninstall the current setup, clean using CCleaner (run a scan), download a new copy and try installing that.	beeswax34 (63)
588242	2007-09-05 09:51:00	Download and install KLite Codex (www.free-codecs.com) and your problem will be solved. WMP comes with a very small list of codex and it is necassary too download a separate codex pack if you wish to view/listen to a lot of media these days.	Bozo (8540)
588243	2007-09-05 14:31:00	Download and install KLite Codex (www.free-codecs.com) and your problem will be solved. WMP comes with a very small list of codex and it is necassary too download a separate codex pack if you wish to view/listen to a lot of media these days. Thats a bit of a story. You shouldn't need third-party codecs to play a simple MP3. And by the sounds of it, WMP11 is actually crashing, giving him an error box. If it was a codec problem, WMP11 would say something like "error finding correct codec, unable to play file" and stay open, not completly shut itself down.	Jams (1051)
588244	2007-09-05 15:05:00	Got it! ..another WMP11 problem! Youse guys gotta start believing that WMP11 is problematic with all the WDRMs and digital signatures and such. Is this MP3 a ripped copy? If so, then your chances of playing it in WMP11 are slim...and the sad part is that you cannot go back to WMP10 or 9 without a complete fdisk and re-install and next time don't get the "updates" to a newer-better edition of WMP. The lock-out for going back to an earlier WMP version is somewhere in a hotfix or critical update to Windows that Uncle Bill slipped in on ya when you thought he was doing ya something good and nice. There are people here (F1) who insist that they have absolutely NO problems with v11..but time will tell. Kinda like a poisoned chocky fish.	SurferJoe46 (51)
588245	2007-09-05 19:26:00	Try a third party media player eg Winamp Some interesting thoughts on Media Player here: www.free-codecs.com	Bantu (52)
588246	2007-09-06 00:42:00	Tank you all very much for the replies. I will give your suggections a go and if necessary get back. Thanks John	jmcnicol (8199)
588247	2007-09-06 00:56:00	I guess I'm not the ONLY naysayer about WMP11 . . . . . . I have a few quotes from other blogs/websites here . . . . . I sincerly recommend reading them all here . . . . . "[ibid] . . . . . I believe that you are caught up because of the monopolizing nature of Micro soft . Under the guise of DRM (Digital Rights Management), no software/hardware that cannot encrypt protected content at all stages, and prevent any insecure output (as component output), from playing . Hard luck that you have been cheated into buying Vista and unable to play content . It means that at some point of time, we may not be even able to play content we bought because we made a copy of it . There are plenty of white papers that show this doomsday prophecy and it is not mine . Half of the hardware do not have firmware drivers for vista because of this policy . Creative Sound Blaster does not work because it has some insecure ports . Finally, one day all our music/media software will be in Microsoft's mercy . This post is dedicated to all the Vista fans/users and victims . All the best with VISTA . :-)" . . . another complaint . . . . . " . . . Prompted by MSWINDOWS I unfortunately downloaded WMP11 prompt for upgrade from WMP10 and found it would not play my AVi videos . This is due, I understand, to the fact that MS have not included all the codecs needed to run this software, so who will crack down on MS? Also, in attempting to `roll back' to WMP10 I found that previous programmes were corrupted and cannot be played with WMP10 or earlier now, and I understand that this was arranged by MS to happen!! Eventually the only way to reinstall WMP10 was to FORMAT my hard drive and spend hours reinstalling everything from scratch . Warning, do not download WMP11 . " ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Be careful of this one . . it may not work . . it wouldn't for me and I tried for three weeks . " . . . . . Microsoft's being a ***** and saying that you can't uninstall WMP because it's a feature of the Operating System . Well, actually, you can, but the method is so well hidden that it's hard to find . Anyway, here's how: * Click the START button and select Run . * Type in regedit in the command box . * When the regedit window appears, expand the HKEY LOCAL MACHINE by clicking on the plus sign to its right . * Now Click on the plus next to SOFTWARE, then MICROSOFT, then WINDOWS, then CURRENT VERSION and finally UNINSTALL * When you expand the Uninstall folder, you'll see all the programs currently installed, such as the uninstall Media Player 10 or Media Player, etc . * Click on the folder you want to uninstall, in the box on the right you will see several strings including UninstallString * Double click UninstallString and a box will appear with the uninstall string highlighted . * Right click on the highlighted entry and select COPY . * Close the Regedit window . * Select the START button and click RUN . * Right click inside the command box and paste the uninstall string and click OK to uninstall Windows Media Player . You might be rolled back to WMP9 (if you have had it installed before) . Otherwise, you can download and install WMP10 from here . On a side note, before installing any beta software, it is always advisable to create a System Restore point before the installation, so you can roll back any changes if errors occur — and they do, especially for betas . " . . . and another . . . . . . "Q: Why can I only play files I rip back on the computer I ripped them to, and not on another computer on the network (for example)? A: This limitation is because of the DRM applied to the file, which licensed the file solely for your usage on that computer . To turn DRM off for all content you create in the future, go to WMP7's Tools:Options:CD Audio and uncheck "Enable Personal Rights Management" (this is under Tools:Options:Copy Music, "Protect Content" under newer versions of WMP), which will result in DRM-free content for all content ripped from that point forward . Generally, I'd simply recommend turning DRM off - going to WMP's Tools:Options:Copy Music and unchecking "Protect Music" - and then rerecording the CDs in question with DRM turned off . After all, even if you recovered the files, they'd *still* be DRMd, and there seems to be no reason for that . " WMP11 is bad on almost every front . . it will get more and more controlling and restrictive as it gets more shut-outs and exclusions that we all ran for years and never had troubles with . . . but not any more . . . . . I advise on not getting anything newer than WMP10 . Do what you want . . but you have been warned . . . and now . . . another shout out by someone other than me: " . . . . THINK DRM WAS bad already? Think I was joking when I said the plan was to start with barely tolerable incursions on your rights, then turn the thumbscrews? Welcome to Windows Media Player 11, and the rights get chipped away a lot more . Get used to the feeling, if you buy DRM infected media, you will only have this happen with increasing rapidity . One of the problems with WiMP11 is licensing and backing it up . If you buy media with DRM infections, you can't move the files from PC to PC, or at least you can't and have them play on the new box . If you want the grand privilege of moving that content, you need to get the approval of the content mafia, sign your life away, and use the tools they give you . If you want to do it in other ways, you are either a lawbreaker or following the advice of J Allard . Wait, same thing . So, in WiMP10, you just backed up your licenses, and stored them in a safe place . Buying DRM infections gets you a bunch of bits and a promise not to sue, but really nothing more . The content mafia will do anything in its power, from buying government to rootkitting you in order to protect those bits, and backing them up leaves a minor loophole while affording the user a whole lot of protection . Guess which one wins, minor loophole or major consumer rights? Yes, WiMP11 will no longer allow you the privilege of backing up your licenses, they are tied to a single device, and if you lose it, you are really SOL . Remember that feeling I mentioned earlier? This is nothing less than a civil rights coup, and most people are dumb enough to let it happen . Read the links, the entire page is scary as hell, but the licensing part takes the cake . "Windows Media Player 11 does not permit you to back up your media usage rights (previously known as licenses)", Wow, new terminology, old idea, you are a wallet with legs waiting to be raped . "The store might limit the number of times that you can restore your rights or limit the number of computers on which can use the songs or videos that you obtain from them . Some stores do not permit you to restore media usage rights at all . " Translation, not our problem, and get bent, we got your cash . But it gets worse . If you rip your own CDs, WiMP11 will take your rights away too . If the 'Copy protect music' option is turned on, well, I can't top their 1984 wording . "If the file is a song you ripped from a CD with the Copy protect music option turned on, you might be able to restore your usage rights by playing the file . You will be prompted to connect to a Microsoft Web page that explains how to restore your rights a limited number of times . " This says to me it will keep track of your ripping externally, and remove your rights whether or not you ask it to . Can you think of a reason you would need to connect to MS for permission to play the songs you ripped from you own CDs? How long do you think it will be before a service pack, masquerading as a 'critical security patch' takes away the optional part of the 'copy protection'? Now do you understand why they have been testing the waters on WiMP phoning home? Think their firewall will stop it even if you ask? Then when you go down on the page a bit, it goes on to show that it guts Tivo capabilities . After three days, it kills your recordings for you, how thoughtful of them . Going away for a week? Tough, your rights are inconvenient to their profits, so they have to go . "Recorded TV shows that are protected with media usage rights, such as some TV content recorded on premium channels, will not play back after 3 days when Windows Media Player 11 Beta 2 for Windows XP is installed on Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 . No known workaround to resolve this issue exists at this time . " Workaround my *ss, this is wholesale rights removal by design . What WiMP11 represents is one of the biggest thefts of your rights that I can think of . MS planned this, pushed the various pieces slowly, and this is the first big hammer to drop . Your rights, the promises they made, and anything else that gets in the way of the content mafia making yet more money gets thrown out . Why? Greed . Your rights? History . You were dumb enough to let it happen, don't say I didn't warn you . " Me here: I would think that fore thinking NZ'ers would wrinkle at this loss of rights and playability of music they own and have also ripped to their systems . . if and where or when it is/was legal . . . . . . but I guess not . . . . :(	SurferJoe46 (51)
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