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Thread ID: 83007	2007-09-16 01:01:00	Backing up shared folders	wainuitech (129)	Press F1

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591510	2007-09-16 01:01:00	Got a couple of customers who I have installed WHS in their home businesses, they want me to do a copy of their important data weekly off site, back at my workshop. I can access their WHS from any of my own PC's to manually do the back ups / transfers, but that will be a pain in the butt every week. Any one used, or can reccommend some software that will automatically do this backup? WHS will back up locally, but not over WAN. I know of several that work fine over a LAN, but not internet. I located what looks like a beta from MS Here (https://www.foldershare.com/) Any one Tried it ?	wainuitech (129)
591511	2007-09-16 01:52:00	There is an add in for WHS that has been released recently called Keep Vault (mswhs.com) and allows the WHS to backup to http://www.drivehq.com/ automatically. Not sure if that is what you are looking for though...	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
591512	2007-09-16 02:24:00	Thanks for that - looks interesting, may have to see what the cost is when its out of Beta. I would like it back to my workshop server. One slight issue I have is I don't really want online storage- With out going into details, the data is VERY Sensitive /private from one of the places. I had to sign a non disclosure from the police before they would even allow me to have access to the place. Just an update from the original post - I thought "what the Hell" and loaded foldershare onto a couple of PC's XP hm. That does an auto backup of selected folders Live- meaning if a document is created its backed up with in seconds. I'd still be interested if any one else uses such software, Have not tried on WHS yet. - Might have to drag out the Beta again to see if it "plays up"	wainuitech (129)
591513	2007-09-16 04:46:00	OK then, what about getting down and dirty and coding your own WHS add in to do the dirty work of uploading to your server? just as a thought	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
591514	2007-09-16 05:10:00	OK then, what about getting down and dirty and coding your own WHS add in to do the dirty work of uploading to your server? just as a thought :thumbs: :D Good Idea but to be completely honest I dont know how, writing code is something I was never really good at. Basic coding not ususallly a worry. Just being lazy I spose, rather use a program that is tried and true.	wainuitech (129)
591515	2007-09-16 05:47:00	You might be able to find a tried and true program, but that might not do exactly what you want... where as if you code it you would have a little program that does exactly what you want ;) But then I have no idea of coding... I find it rather boring...	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
591516	2007-09-16 06:36:00	:thumbs: :D Good Idea but to be completely honest I dont know how, writing code is something I was never really good at. Basic coding not ususallly a worry. Just being lazy I spose, rather use a program that is tried and true. Why not train your customers? If I had very sensitive data I would save this data on a regular basis to a directory/folder then use something like truecrypt. This may be a folder that may have many files. I then upload to your server. Why do you need access to the customer computer? Is this remote access so you can restore a file or files? I would not give anyone access to data I consider sensitive. What is the object here?	Sweep (90)
591517	2007-09-16 06:53:00	Got a couple of customers who I have installed WHS in their home businesses, they want me to do a copy of their important data weekly off site, back at my workshop. I can access their WHS from any of my own PC's to manually do the back ups / transfers, but that will be a pain in the butt every week. Any one used, or can reccommend some software that will automatically do this backup? WHS will back up locally, but not over WAN. I know of several that work fine over a LAN, but not internet. I located what looks like a beta from MS Here (https://www.foldershare.com/) Any one Tried it ? No I have not tried it. Looks like a 2 Gig limitation. As these people are CUSTOMERS then you can charge for your time I would think. I would not mind earning money by having work doing OFFSITE backups. And in fact, I do, for several people. All done via Internet. Use Winzip, Batch instructions, encryptions. This way I can't see the data involved.	Sweep (90)
591518	2007-09-16 06:55:00	What about something like Acronis or Gost. Setup an FTP server at the workshop and do a weekly backup. I have a setup for two customers where critical data is encrypted and uploaded to a password protected ftp server on my hosting space weekly. Obviously depends on data size but works for me. The data is encrypted with big long and complicated password so good luck to anyone who can hack the password on the FTP server as they would then need to hack the encrypted file.	berryb (99)
591519	2007-09-16 07:13:00	Why not train your customers? What is the object here? Okay- Train the customers- hmmmm sometimes its hard enough just trying to talk them through "simple" items on the phone. No real traing is actually required as there is nothing for them to do. Try to get them to change the password is hard enough.:groan: The data is running from Windows Home Server - Because of the nature of their work they need access to certain files on the site from different locations all over NZ. WHS has the ability to allow access to these files from any web browser in the world. All they need to do is type in the address Eg. yoursitename.homeserver.com That then pops up a log in page, put in their own user name and pass word and volia there is the server with the required folders from there they can read then transfer as a normal down load. Trying to use any other system is not an option. Its hard enough teaching them harder things. saying use FTP - Forget it. Why I need access is simple - remote desktop, maintence.Half the machines are XP hm Others are XP Pro. I have done this in the past for fixes that take a few minutes. The reason for the backups off site should be obvious- While the server is located in another building, should they have a fire every thing would be lost. Hardware can be replaced, data cant. With remote access I can manage every thing from home. And yes it is Billable - we have already come to an arrangement with that. My server here has secure precautions- if it was broken into you would have to have the knowledge on how to break the security. Thats once you get past my security system. Just an update to the original question - Yes Foldershare does work on WHS after altering a few settings, just tried it before, moved 300mb in one go- no worries, and it updates any word documents in seconds. So thanks for any suggestions people - I'll go with foldershare and then its automated & its free.	wainuitech (129)
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