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591360 2007-09-15 04:48:00 I wonder, the cheapest Apple has a 2.0 GHz Intel DuoCore processor, one of the more expensive Sony vaio notebooks (TZ series) has only a 1.08 GHz processor. Are the two OS handling speed differently or are Sony's just having low speed processors. If the OS handles it differently then for sure running Windows on an Apple would be must faster than that on the PC ?????????
Or does GHz have a different implication for both hardware?

Cheers

Johan
hotkiwi (6379)
591361 2007-09-15 05:17:00 Theoretically they should be the same since Apple uses the same Intel Chips. They just have the clock speed set slightly lower to run cooler and use less battery power.
As to which OS runs faster - well considering 10.4 is no where near as bloated as Vista I would say OS X but that also depends on the speed and efficiency of the user - OS X :)

In terms of which is faster for games
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OS X is also more suited to multicored processors. Yes Windows on a Mac has been shown to run faster than on an equivalent factory standard PC.As to who uses those... most of the Joe public that buy them from DSE or Noel Leemings etc.

What is the reason for your query?
winmacguy (3367)
591362 2007-09-15 05:46:00 This crapple, is it a desktop or notebook? you need to compare like items, you cannot compare a desktop and a notebook on specs because notebooks are made for low power consumption over raw power. The_End_Of_Reality (334)
591363 2007-09-15 05:55:00 This crapple, is it a desktop or notebook? you need to compare like items, you cannot compare a desktop and a notebook on specs because notebooks are made for low power consumption over raw power.

As it happens the MacBook 13' has a 2.0GHz chip while the 15' MacBook Pro has a 2.4GHz chip
winmacguy (3367)
591364 2007-09-15 06:05:00 Theoretically they should be the same since Apple uses the same Intel Chips. They just have the clock speed set slightly lower to run cooler and use less battery power.
As to which OS runs faster - well considering 10.4 is no where near as bloated as Vista I would say OS X but that also depends on the speed and efficiency of the user - OS X :)

In terms of which is faster for games
XP
OS X is also more suited to multicored processors. Yes Windows on a Mac has been shown to run faster than on an equivalent factory standard PC.As to who uses those... most of the Joe public that buy them from DSE or Noel Leemings etc.

What is the reason for your query?
Did the original poster ask for you bias opinion on the different OS's? NO! They asked whether OS X or Windows (not necessarily Vista) interact with the CPU differently in a way that would affect performance.

OS X and Windows are completely different OS so its logical for them to interact with the CPU in a slightly different manner, but it would be nearly impossible to argue which is better as many other factors can affect performance and are difficult to eliminate.

OS X and Windows are both fine OS's that perform sufficiently, when choosing an OS other things such as features and software support should be considered above performance. For example OS X has very good video editing software (just to prove I'm not bias against Macs)

Some laptops ship with lower clocked CPU as these use less power and require less cooling, making for a laptop the last longer when running on batteries and is smaller.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
591365 2007-09-15 06:14:00 As I understand it, the Vaio TZ series are the ultra-portable line of notebooks from Sony, so can't really be compared to regular 13" Macbooks or an iMac (which you could be refering to, you haven't made clear what you're comparing really). sal (67)
591366 2007-09-15 06:28:00 Did the original poster ask for you bias opinion on the different OS's? NO! They asked whether OS X or Windows (not necessarily Vista) interact with the CPU differently in a way that would affect performance.


Some laptops ship with lower clocked CPU as these use less power and require less cooling, making for a laptop the last longer when running on batteries and is smaller.

All I was saying is that it depends what your comparing and why as to solly compare the GHz speeds of two chips from the same manufacture on two different platforms won't always be an accurate representation of OS "performance". It would also help to know what the poster is looking for in an OS.
winmacguy (3367)
591367 2007-09-15 16:15:00 If I understand your question correctly, you are wondering why a 1GHz Vaio costs more than a 2GHz Mac . Fair question, they're both premium manufacturers claiming to have market-leading products .

The price of a laptop doesn't relate directly to Gigahertz . Ultra-portables are a premium product across all manufacturers that make them . The Intel ULV (Ultra-low voltage) chip in the Vaio is a premium product that offers substantially more battery life - a cornerstone of the Ultra-portable category .

There are usually other key differences too - the Vaio RAM isn't standard SODIMM socket RAM, 1 . 8" hard drives are employed instead of the 2 . 5" you'll find in every other lappy . The screen may be smaller physically, but it'll be at least equal to the MacBooks' resolution .

I haven't checked the TZ series out, but Sony are the main promoter/manufacturer of Blu-Ray optical drives so it's quite likely there's the capability to write 30GB disks installed . Apple haven't made a call on the Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD dispute, although seeing as Microsoft are in the founding group for HD-DVD, I'd think Blu-Ray would be the Mac choice eventually . But for now, it's the "old-fashioned" DVD format you're getting in MacBooks .

Ultra-portable buyers purchase these machines for reasons other than saving a few seconds booting Windows - all day battery life and being able to slip the laptop into their existing briefcase rather than a dedicated laptop bag rank far higher than clock speed .

Hope that helps ya .
1024KB (12633)
591368 2007-09-15 17:32:00 Just for the record, the Vaio TZ range have standard DVDRW drives and there is also an optional 32GB SSD (solid state drive) which would cut down power consumption considerably when used solely, but at a premium. Also TZ notebooks are considered "luxury" hardware in addition to the merits of being an ultra-portable.

Side note: Vaio TZ notebooks (images.google.co.nz) don't have MacBook-style keyboards, rather MacBooks have Vaio-style keyboards.
sal (67)
591369 2007-09-15 20:26:00 the cheapest Apple has a 2 . 0 GHz Intel DuoCore processor, one of the more expensive Sony vaio notebooks (TZ series) has only a 1 . 08 GHz processor .

There is more to it than just the CPU speed .
Theres the bus speed of the board, the type and amount of RAM in these machines as well .

Can't just compare the CPUs unless the rest of it is identical too .
pctek (84)
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