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595311 2007-09-27 01:20:00 Have 3 HDD's with Linux on each and have problems.I now want to completly wipe everything on all drives and start over.How can I do that ?I have everything important on a DVD so I want the drives squeaky clean.Also and this
may be part of my problems,the 3 drives are 2*one IDE with one as master
and one on another IDE as master,is this ok or should there only be one master.
kjaada (253)
595312 2007-09-27 01:36:00 Several ways to delete the partitions.
1. Download a win98 boot disk, and boot from Floppy, type in FDISK then select Non DOS and delete the drive.

2. Download Partition Logic (partitionlogic.org.uk) << its free, and boot from CD - wipe drives + many other choices as well.

Free Unzipping and ISO burning software in my sig below.

If you have IDE drives, you can only have 1 master, the others should be setup as slaves / cable select
wainuitech (129)
595313 2007-09-27 01:48:00 I have G parted,will it clean everything so I can start again ? kjaada (253)
595314 2007-09-27 01:52:00 I have G parted,will it clean everything so I can start again ?
Partition Logic should allow you to do what ever you want to the drives, Wipe data, format, delete partitions, resize etc.
wainuitech (129)
595315 2007-09-27 04:54:00 If you have IDE drives, you can only have 1 master, the others should be setup as slaves / cable select


um... no

What I'm sure you meant is only one master per IDE channel.

To clarify on each cable you can have one master and one slave. If you only have one drive on a cable set it to master.

CS is a nice idea but in practice I recommend avoiding it.
dugimodo (138)
595316 2007-09-27 05:04:00 I have G parted,will it clean everything so I can start again ?

Yep - so long as gparted is not actually running from the drive...
Sherman (9181)
595317 2007-09-27 06:01:00 um... no

What I'm sure you meant is only one master per IDE channel.

To clarify on each cable you can have one master and one slave. If you only have one drive on a cable set it to master.

CS is a nice idea but in practice I recommend avoiding it.

Okay while you can have a Master on IDE2 as well as IDE1 its not wise to, as it can cause booting problems sometimes. Its usually a lot safer to have the drives set to slaves.
I have some customers PC's that if you have two Masters they wont boot, or if they do only one drive is seen.

If you had a Optical drive - yes that can be set to master and works fine. But the question was relating to hard Drives.

If it were Sata drives then yes all SATA are masters.
wainuitech (129)
595318 2007-09-27 20:35:00 sorry but I have to disagree again,

You normally cannot get any drives to work on an IDE channel without one of them set to master. Although it may have worked for you in the past you are not supposed to have 2 slaves on the same controller and it shouldn't work at all.

Also a single drive configured as a slave will not normally even be recognised. Some controllers are better than others and will work when things are configured wrong, but most will not.

You should always have a master on each channel, with your preferred boot device best set up as master on the primary channel. Boot problems may occur if both masters are configured as bootable, but this is more to do with partitioning / formatting than the master / slave configuration.

On a modern board you can happily set up all 4 drives on 2 IDE channels to be bootable and use the BIOS to set the priority On older machines the order is often not able to be altered.

I have always configured my Drives as 1 master and 1 slave on each IDE channel, this is how the motherboard manuals say it needs to be configured and it has never caused me any problems.

To fix boot problems by only having one master drive is like treating the symptoms, it may work but it's not addressing the real problem.
dugimodo (138)
595319 2007-09-27 21:33:00 I'm not starting a fight but You actually have agreed with what I put.
You can have a Drive set to slave and it will read fine with out a master on the same IDE ribbon - done it Hundreds of times.
Meaning the Main Drive on IDE1 is master and the other drive is on IDE2 (slave).
Most people will have a least 1 Optical drive, so you can always attach the second drive to the spare connector on IDE2 ribbon and it reads perfectly most of the time even without the optical drive.

[Quote] I have always configured my Drives as 1 master and 1 slave on each IDE channel, this is how the motherboard manuals say it needs to be configured and it has never caused me any problems.[End] -- I Agree 100%

One big problem with modern Motherboards is a lot only come with 1 IDE, the others are SATA. So if you want more IDE hard Drives you need to install a PCI Adaptor card.

I Been in this business for over 10 years- seen many different "setups" some would make you you go - WHAT the H**L:eek:

Any way No more from me I got 8 PC's to build before sunday.
wainuitech (129)
595320 2007-09-27 23:52:00 Good to c I have 2 "experts" working on my prob.
Now I appear to have.
A ribbon with a primary master and primary slave
then another ribbon that goes in to the same plug to the MOBO and it has
a secondary master on it along with my DVD writer.
Am I correct in assuming that the sec master should be a slave ?
kjaada (253)
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