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| Thread ID: 83429 | 2007-10-01 21:19:00 | Cable management - enclosing cables | MeOldMate (12871) | Press F1 |
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| 596909 | 2007-10-02 04:24:00 | Just a pix or two... 1) (www.imagef1.net.nz) 2) (www.imagef1.net.nz) 3) (www.imagef1.net.nz)Damn, did I see a rat in there :eek: |
Myth (110) | ||
| 596910 | 2007-10-02 07:25:00 | I dint:lol: You seeing things Myth??? | beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 596911 | 2007-10-02 10:20:00 | You have all overlooked another really good reason for keeping up the standard for out-of-control cabling. The mess acts as an anti-theft device! We had burglars over two years ago and they gave up on trying to untangle my cables so all machines were left! | linw (53) | ||
| 596912 | 2007-10-02 10:51:00 | Just be careful of induced signals and interference from what should be separate cables/wires. There's always a little induction from two wires carrying different signals or voltages, so it's usually a good idea to cross each and every one of them at 90º angles to each other...not likely to happen under your feet...or even in the same room. Data cables in small and large buildings are always loomed together in neat bundles, there is very little chance of cross-talk in ethernet cables so looming and looping is not really a problem. The "right-angle" crossing thing is aimed more at unshielded cables where inductive coupling can take place. Looming or looping data cables with power cables is a no-no though. Tidy up to your heart's content, just keep data and power separate. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 596913 | 2007-10-02 19:38:00 | Data cables in small and large buildings are always loomed together in neat bundles, there is very little chance of cross-talk in ethernet cables so looming and looping is not really a problem. The "right-angle" crossing thing is aimed more at unshielded cables where inductive coupling can take place. Looming or looping data cables with power cables is a no-no though. Tidy up to your heart's content, just keep data and power separate. Cheers Billy 8-{) Didn't we have some posts on 60 or 50 cycle hum on speakers and tvi? I don't like to induce any harmonics or signals into anything if I can help it. My tv goes nuts as it is when I have the Dell running..and it's a full-steel case..so it's gotta be the cables/wires crossing over. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 596914 | 2007-10-02 20:11:00 | My tv goes nuts as it is when I have the Dell running . . and it's a full-steel case . . so it's gotta be the cables/wires crossing over . Sounds like it is the Dell that is at fault, not your cables . Most radiation comes from the video card, some from power supplies and some from CPUs . Properly installed and connected coaxial cables or shielded Cat 5 data cables will not pick up interference or radiate it either . Computers should comply with international regulatory standards for RFI/EMI emissions so unless Dell has been buying from a shonky cost-cutting supplier (a prime suspicion where Dell is concerned) it should not be interfering with any AV equipment . If the Dell is radiating into the antenna then the first step is to ensure you have adequate signal strength coming in to start with, i . e . maximum received at the aerial head . If you live in a fringe area and the interference is the same across all TV channels and bands then it may be a fact of life . If it is a low level but broad-band source interfering with unusually weak signals then often there is little you can do about it, provided the computer meets specs . You can identify where it is coming from in your computer by varying the video card usage, perhaps by comparing a fixed screen image with a movie clip, you could also shut down the video card and boot just the power supply and cpu, I'm sure you have the experience, imagination and ingenuity to carry out an effective source-isolation program . I trace conducted and/or radiated RFI/EMI professionally and rarely need to bring special test gear into the equation . Most problems yield to common sense and logical diagnostics . In all of my not-inconsiderable experience, loomed/bundled data cables have never been the cause, nor trying to set up right angled cross-overs the solution, the latter applies only to induced interference between power cables, and that is another story completely . Viewing your rat's nest, I'd recommend separating power and data just for the sake of good practice . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 596915 | 2007-10-02 20:20:00 | You just made the rest of my week go pfft! | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 596916 | 2007-10-02 20:27:00 | Joe, I couldn't help noticing in your photos that your desk has holes drilled in the back-plate underneath - so you're already in a position to easily do what I am planning to do, but without the glueing and drilling. So get on down to the Home Depot and get a big ole bag o' cable ties and get tying. Pimp Those Wires Then send us the "after" photo for comparison. |
MeOldMate (12871) | ||
| 596917 | 2007-10-02 21:08:00 | Hi Sounds like your desk is similar to mine so my solution might work for you . I noticed in an earlier thread someone had mentioned plastic guttering and this is certainly a novel idea but I used the square plastic white downpipe . 1 . First cut the square downpipe to the correct length using a hacksaw . 2 . Place the square downpipe at the back of the desk as high up as possible . My back support board is recessed . 3 . Drill small bolt holes in the correct place throught the desk support board and the square downpipe . NOTE: These must be close to the ends of the downpipe so a nut can be inserted onto the bolts . 4 . Slighty recess the desk support holes so heads are flush . 5 . Bolt the square downpipe into place using bolts, nuts and washers . Put a small black round sticker over the bolt head . If you can get some to match your desk use them . 6 . If you need to bring a cable out before the end of downpipe use a hole-saw . Plan this before running any cables . 7 . Thread cables through square downpipe using a suitable length of flexible curtain wire with a hook at one end . Tape cable to curtain wire first . My desk is L-shaped so I have a square downpipe in both directions . Both main cables and others are in both . To date no problems have be encounted due to induction . As there is plenty of room in the downpipe the mains cables are not confined in any way . This is a neat solution for a messy problem . My desk sits nicely in the corner as before and apart from the small stickers which are hard to notice, it looks exactly as before . BURNZEE GOIN' FISHIN'!! |
Burnzee (6950) | ||
| 596918 | 2007-10-03 05:15:00 | As long as under your desk doesn't look like this (www.imagef1.net.nz), you should be all sweet :p | wratterus (105) | ||
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