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Thread ID: 142077	2016-04-21 17:15:00	Puppy No Shut-Down, Dead Icons, etc	SurferJoe46 (51)	Press F1

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1419390	2016-04-21 17:15:00	I've been googling for answers and they all seem slightly related, but not precisely so. To implement the repairs they say work (Soft Sledgehammer, Heavy Sledgehammer, etc) requires that ONLY the correct Puppy version be known. Where can I find what it is that I loaded? This one scares me: murga-linux.com I know it's a Slacko-version of Puppy... but that's seems to not be enough info for the repair that seems to be only usable to the versi0n about which they are speaking with grave warnings to not use them on the wrong Puppy. OK - I've tried a few terminal entries to no avail. I don't want to kill Puppy --- I guess all my tabs, files and folders will go away too - or can I use the Puppy Install disc for a repair? Symptoms: I cannot shut down Puppy All my desktop icons are dead and non-responsive. There may be other problems (save file?) about which I do not know at this time. Afraid to shut the power off at this point, 'cause I do not know Puppy's ability to repair itself from a power loss shut down. My Terminal Directory Tree under "/" shows a file? folder? called "X11", which opens up repeatedly to another "X11" file? folder that seems to go on to infinity or beyond still called "X11". This doesn't look good - right?	SurferJoe46 (51)
1419391	2016-04-22 00:50:00	Seeing X11 is fine, this is the X Windowing System by Xorg, which has been version 11 for decades. To find your version try: cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS or uname -a I am not sure what you are experiencing or what is not responding, can anything be done? Does the keyboard work?	Kame (312)
1419392	2016-04-22 00:53:00	Keyboard and mouse OK . Icons when clicked do nothing . Clicking on icon to shut down does not work . Rt click on desktop does not produce anything either . Trying command lines now . . . . . bbs . Results: cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS ---- No such file uname-a ---- command not found	SurferJoe46 (51)
1419393	2016-04-22 01:23:00	I think I found a problem. I had changed the desktop wallpaper to another and that's when it all fell apart. I finally got it back and hit the commands you sent --- results: Slacko64 Puppy 6.3.0	SurferJoe46 (51)
1419394	2016-04-22 05:42:00	There's a space between uname and the option -a which explains the command not found.	Kame (312)
1419395	2016-04-22 05:46:00	There's a space between uname and the option -a which explains the command not found. Oooops! My bad. Does that same entry work on all versions of Linux stuff?	SurferJoe46 (51)
1419396	2016-04-22 07:21:00	Yes, it gives the details of the running kernel. 'uname --help' will show the usage. 'man uname' will show the manual page with all the gory details of the command and it's options.	fred_fish (15241)
1419397	2016-04-22 09:30:00	I had no luck with Puppy Slacko. Now using Puppy Ubuntu V6 2015 which has given no problems whatsoever on both my computers, one dual booted with W7 & the other with W10.	mzee (3324)
1419398	2016-04-22 16:23:00	I had no luck with Puppy Slacko . Now using Puppy Ubuntu V6 2015 which has given no problems whatsoever on both my computers, one dual booted with W7 & the other with W10 . WARNING - Some pentasyllabic words and complicated phrases with compound verbs, reflexives and assumed inferred pronouns are in the next tirade . Enter at one's own risk! __________________________________________________ __________ OK - I agree that Puppy/Slacko might be a bit unstable in certain areas --- but it's been a great lesson for me and a rush-class on thinking outside of the Windows screen and it's MIND DRY-CLEANING ASYLUM . (Bill "666" Gates: "Leave your brain with us; we know what's best for you . Trust me; I'm your friend") So far I've learned a lot of new and interesting things and I cannot say that it has been wasted time . I'm all in favor for things that don't bend, bag nor sag at the knees - but Puppy/Slacko isn't one of those things . The wheels seem to fall off with some predictability - like all the time - and yet I feel that with youse guys terrific help - that I have been riding a fast rising escalator into Linux-Land . A couple of observations: 1 . Puppy's not an entry-level distro I think . Not for an angry M$ ex-pat anyway . It's just O D D and not all that user friendly . Pick something like Zorin - which has some recognizable features that kinda-look like the old Redmond offering . We've all been spoon-fed on M$ junk food and I know that some M$ fanbois will wrinkle at this: M$ is NOT your friend! Changing to something that we should have been using all along is tough at this point in time . There's the 'age factor' too - so start Linux in the lowest grades possible in your public schools . Start a referendum about that and recall or fire any teachers who won't co-operate . Remember The old Commodore system? It was so much better than what Big Blue had - but Big Blue had a bigger legal war chest with lots of attorneys with nothing to do but cause trouble . and smothered a superior system with their overweight, mega-million lines of code that are found in the bloatware that is called "Windows" . Hate me - I don't care - because I'm right and you know it . [/soapbox] 2 . Multi-boots are fun if kept to a logical number . I found you cannot have six multi-booted distros AND W7,8,8 . 1 and/or W10 in the same system . The little guy in the processor just throws up his hands and goes postal . 3 . Make ONE CHANGE AT A TIME, Oh, yeah --- changing the desktop and a few other tweaks during one boot-up session is going to have them all be there next time . Maybe yes --- more than likely no . Why? Because the little man who runs things inside your processor cannot remember what YOU - (= the 'DIVINE ONE' to the little man) - wanted to change and now he's all confused and can't get back to the last known-good configuration . L-things don't seem to care - you can change things all you want with no guarantee that it'll work - but L-thingy does it anyway . Then you're left with (either) a terminally blinking cursor or a dark - but not black - screen that LOOKS like something's happening . . . . . . . but it's not . 4 . The is no BSOD in Linux . . . . . . . . for good or bad! 5 . The following may or may not be an axiom: The way the computer IS at the time you install a distro - is pretty much the way it's gonna stay afterward . Now for the axiom: "Here Now - Here Forever" Let me 'spain ------If for some unfortunate reason, you are CAT5e'd and actually hard wired into your modem for the installation of your choice on an L-thing ---- well, that's the way the L-thing will work from then on . I mean: that when I was hardwired to my router and booted up Puppy or Zorin --- both of them decided running wireless was not even ever gonna happen on their watch! I know of what I speak here . I cannot get either of them to learn new tricks - especially the one where I want to got WIRELESS! The Don Quixote in me has been gauntlet-sissy-slapped and I don't take such things well - especially on a full belly, with dry pants and a new found mission in my mind . Lead on, Mc Duff!	SurferJoe46 (51)
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