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| Thread ID: 141622 | 2016-01-22 02:07:00 | "I don't think I am a criminal......." | Zippity (58) | PC World Chat |
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| 1414934 | 2016-01-22 02:07:00 | As a law abiding citizen who has paid taxes all his working life, I object to bludgers like this guy (www.nzherald.co.nz)..... Stand up and be a man and face reality!! |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1414935 | 2016-01-22 02:14:00 | I quite agree Z Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1414936 | 2016-01-22 02:35:00 | Yeah I borrowed money and left the country and never thought about it again, but I'm not a criminal because I don't earn much and was busy buying a house and having kids. | dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1414937 | 2016-01-22 05:20:00 | What use is a Bachelor of Arts anyway? Does it make one a better house painter, photographer, anything? It used to be the easy degree option to get a job with the government. PJ | Poppa John (284) | ||
| 1414938 | 2016-01-22 08:35:00 | He is just a crook. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1414939 | 2016-01-22 08:56:00 | When i was at Uni (around '79 -82 and free - Govt actually paid us if we had a bursary) I knew BA students that did it as a teaching degree, a double major (usually with law degree), and yep for govt related jobs. But - there were veteran students, some I knew had a few degrees, Phd's, and could could get entry to UK Uni's at the time. I personally knew a few blokes who were "pro" students for over 10 - 12 years. Squatting around in the grad bar drinking, even had a few custard pie fights, then playing pool, and spaces/defender for weeks on end...All changed when student costs and loans came, around '93 I think. One of my younger sister's has a student loan, like many others, but still remains abroad for a long time. But this puna guy - working in education (and should know well his debt obligations), had made no attempt to repay. Some students may say, that the crime is that we have to pay for tertiary education. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1414940 | 2016-01-22 21:57:00 | Good points Kahawai but under the system we have it's not free and this guy as you say has made no attempt to repay so he gets no sympathy from me and I think he got off too easy, now that He's home what are the odds He'll pay off any more of this debt unless He needs to come back here. It'd be nice if education was free, In an ideal world I think it should be. However where does it end, there has to be a cut-off where people have to start paying their own way. As Kahawai mentioned there are some who would happily be students for a large portion of their lives and never work for a living if they could get away with it. Maybe the first attempt at a degree should be free as long as it's something that can realistically help with a career. But if you fail or want to keep learning then you should pay for it, the public should not be supporting perpetual students except perhaps for a rare and exceptional individual who might change the world. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1414941 | 2016-01-22 22:57:00 | Responding to kahawai chaser's post, the thing that rankles with me is that the people he described are the very people who took away the system that encouraged tertiary education via bursaries, once they had sucked all they could out of the system. It doesn't matter whether they were Labour or National, both mobs did the same thing - sucked on the hind teat of the state till they got what they wanted and then dismantled the system that gave them a leg up. People like Phil Goff as Minister of Education who presided over the introduction of the current fees and loans system. People like John Key whose mother was supported by State Housing and a benefit, whilst little Johnny no doubt got his tertiary education free. People like Paula Bennett, whose tertiary education was undertaken whilst she was on the DPB - I assume that she applied for and was granted the top up available to beneficiaries at the time to support them to get tertiary education (the Training Incentive Allowance). Whatever, she ordered the removal of that TIA once she became Minister. One by one, left and right politicians sucked all they could out of the State for their own benefit, and then pulled up the drawbridge behind them. This is not said in defence of people not paying their loans back - they should honour their contracts. My beef is with the two faced pollies. |
John H (8) | ||
| 1414942 | 2016-01-23 01:39:00 | Alas J hypocrisy and greed rule, I saw a Spanish royal is being had up for some diddle, the buggers never have enough. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 1414943 | 2016-01-23 01:43:00 | How did this guy with 5 daughters ever get a $300 000 mortgage on $30 000 a year? | Arnie (6624) | ||
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