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Thread ID: 141622	2016-01-22 02:07:00	"I don't think I am a criminal......."	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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1414954	2016-01-26 22:25:00	loan pay it back: all good dont pay back anything : expect 'issues' and dont complain when it catches up with you .	1101 (13337)
1414955	2016-01-27 16:53:00	Winston - yes . I did my degree under the old regime (1964 - 1969 incl), so that is familiar . I accept that it wasn't free, but I went through the 7th form and had a Higher Leaving Certificate so I had a Fees and Allowances bursary . That meant that as well as my fees being paid (apart from the Stud Ass fee) I received three payments a year in allowances . None of that was enough to live on, so I had to support myself in work of various kinds . Fruit picking in Earnscleugh, fellmongery and hay carting in Gore, fellmongery in Kaiapoi, acting in radio and tv, law clerking, and operating at a telephone answering service in ChCh during the year on a part time basis . Work was always easy to obtain in those days, and we were able to save enough to come out of university education debt free . I later did a post grad diploma and was paid by the gumberment to do so (regular salary, bonded four years for two years of study so it was a six year commitment) . My wife was paid as a teacher trainee in year three of her degree and her post grad diploma at Teachers College, and later at Library School . Contrary to what you said, I didn't rely on my father for support, except for board in year one . I never had a bank overdraft either because I was able to pay my way with job related income . The rents were incredibly low then - I think we paid 10 pounds a week for a two bedroom flat, shared between four of us . We all moaned, and were fast into the queues on allowance days each term, but somehow, even those from families who could not support their kids into tertiary education managed to get by without loans . By contrast, two of my children ended up with student loans, neither of them horrific, but still a debt is a debt when you are starting out in life . My wife and I (without each other's knowledge) were both sending the eldest regular sums of money, but only found out later that most of it went on mountaineering and skiing gear instead of rent, books and food . . . I know it is old fashioned, and the usual suspects here will do their usual pathetic whinge about me being a commie, but I always supported Bill Sutch's writings on the imperative of State investment in the education of its population as one of the most important ways in which the country can grow its labour force capability and compete in the modern international economy . Unfortunately we got Douglas and Richardson and their acolytes instead . Ah John, we are very close in our life experience . I went to Otago uni in 1974 . I have 3 children at university - one postgrad, one who is uncertain, and one just starting and likely to be a politician . I'm old school . Higher education has never been about founding a career but instead has been focused upon expanding the mind . Sadly today the opposite is the imperative our children are enveloped by .	Winston001 (3612)
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